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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
(Post 1683991)
W. T. F.
LAX pairing credits suck! Back to reserve, why the heck did we allow the company until Nov to pay ADC 5:15 and we gave the short call away right now? Who the frick agreed to that! LAX got shafted again....:mad: |
Don't like where these are trending...
Airbus's Bicycle Seat For Airliners Looks Incredibly Painful - Business Insider Boeing To Expand 737 MAX Capacity to 200 | Airchive "seat pitch will be reduced to 29 inches per seat." Expect even more "air rage". |
Originally Posted by gzsg
(Post 1684061)
Where is this downturn 2017 coming from? Randy in SLC?
Do just a tiny bit of reading about U.S. Energy production. The jobs. The effect on GDP. The Europeans are spending over $100 billion and the South Africans over $70 billion moving production to the United States due to our cheap natural gas. IMO we are in a 10 to 15 year up cycle. Perhaps you think I'm crazy or too optimistic, but this 2017 downturn is coming from Randy, Buzz and the dark side. Let's no repeat such nonsense. But, as a pilot, I want to have the structures I rely upon to have been tested and found sufficient to survive the worst case scenarios. In years past our scope has not survived the tests of adverse circumstance. Management has come to expect we will negotiate away job protections, particularly under stress. We do a better job than most in our contractual engineering. Our Representatives will do the job we task them to achieve. If we demand Delta pilots fly these scope busters, we will be in good shape. I am just pointing out the threats on the horizon and ask that we, as pilots, consider the environment we are flying into as we provide direction to our MEC in upcoming negotiations. |
Originally Posted by cni187
(Post 1684072)
Dude, I'll take your LAX spot in a heartbeat.
LAX is in for a big shock, for the better when the 5;15 kicks in.... Hawaii will be flown else where except HNL and the ER! We shall see. Not sure why soo many reserves this month... |
Max Duty Day
Anyone want to try to explain when one can really walk?
Looking at my rotation I have one line the says ACT/MAX 7:30/11:10 Then below that it says 12:00/14:00/9:00 So in this case when can one walk? Does any of this change down the road with the new FAR 117 agreement?
Originally Posted by Roadkill
(Post 1683962)
On another note, I recently had Crew Tracking tell me I had to accept 2 hour duty extension without any choice, it was a contractual obligation. They changed their tune a bit when pressed, but then said it would be a fitness for duty issue if I declined and I'd have to talk to CP. And of course no one even contacted us, or mentioned the flight was delayed, until I noticed things were taking us an hour over our "max duty" printed on the rotation.
That's not how I understood all the changes and FAA interpretations. All the back and forth here, as well as this event with company, convinces me that without a lawyer on the phone, you can't really be sure what your obligations or limits are in the middle of an IROP. I was absolutely flat out told I had no choice in the matter, and then pushed veeeerry strongly. |
Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 1684066)
J,
I know we'll continue to argue about this but...... We need to restructure the pay package THEN get the raise we deserve. Think Labron James, I'll bet he fixed some structural things in his newest contract in addition getting his payday. I say again, profit sharing is for suckers. We can only restructure ourselves out of it while we are making money. You know me, I have NO union connections or agenda, just a difference of opinion from yours. So, there is no way I'm trying to "lower expectations". I just want this fixed so we aren't at the mercy of accountants. Ferd I hear what you are saying, but we are in ALPA not the long shoreman's union. I agree to eliminating profit sharing if we get 40% 1/1/15. 2004 rates plus some inflation. Here is the problem with opening the profit sharing box, we will be cost neutral. Give up some/all profit sharing and get another pathetic 4/8/3/3. Basically nothing to management because we funded it with our profit sharing and the balance is inflation. We need to leave profit sharing alone and get a minimum of 20% 1/1/15. Look at the annual increases of our executives. Do they make concessions to get gains? Time for DALPA to lead instead of follow. Jerry |
Originally Posted by Roadkill
(Post 1683962)
A's out. Still no backdoor Bs.
On another note, I recently had Crew Tracking tell me I had to accept 2 hour duty extension without any choice, it was a contractual obligation. They changed their tune a bit when pressed, but then said it would be a fitness for duty issue if I declined and I'd have to talk to CP. And of course no one even contacted us, or mentioned the flight was delayed, until I noticed things were taking us an hour over our "max duty" printed on the rotation. That's not how I understood all the changes and FAA interpretations. All the back and forth here, as well as this event with company, convinces me that without a lawyer on the phone, you can't really be sure what your obligations or limits are in the middle of an IROP. I was absolutely flat out told I had no choice in the matter, and then pushed veeeerry strongly. |
Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 1684066)
J,
I know we'll continue to argue about this but...... We need to restructure the pay package THEN get the raise we deserve. Think Labron James, I'll bet he fixed some structural things in his newest contract in addition getting his payday. I say again, profit sharing is for suckers. We can only restructure ourselves out of it while we are making money. You know me, I have NO union connections or agenda, just a difference of opinion from yours. So, there is no way I'm trying to "lower expectations". I just want this fixed so we aren't at the mercy of accountants. Ferd One more thing to ponder. Many of our pilots are stuck in the past, never realizing the industry has changed forever. Billions in fees. No fare wars. We drop SFO-NRT. UAL drops SEA-NRT. It is the oligopoly of management's dreams. Our economy is lackluster and picking up steam every day. None of us can imagine the profits Delta will make. We will soon announce an additional $250 million in free cash flow in the second quarter. Our profits will easily hit $5 billion in 2015. Ferd we get 20% of the profit over $2.5 billion. Do you really want to give that up? This money is a small token of our billions in life changing concessions. Let's leave it alone and make the historic gains our MEC has committed to without concessions. Jerry |
Originally Posted by gzsg
(Post 1684009)
UAL
Their management claims a 50% reduction in training costs. I will love to be wrong, but i see this as a done deal along with reduced profit sharing. I also see a deal early. Way too many feelers and lowering of expectaions early. Why touch profit sharing? Is Delta losing money? Jerry |
Originally Posted by gzsg
(Post 1684056)
What is the difference between pay banding and reducing categories?
Have you looked at UALs 4 pay bands on this website? Not following you. I'm sure the pay panding has a limited effect, but the vast majority of the effect is the fact that they have about half of our fleet categories, thus that much less training. That's where you fell off the wagon, so to speak. Make more sense? |
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