Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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I feel sheepish this morning. I made my point. Then, I let someone get under my skin, got angry (internet angry is both the worst and silliest kind of angry), and loosed a rhetorical flourish that destroyed my credibility.
That's some rookie forensics, right there.
That's some rookie forensics, right there.
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Since I can't paste the exact words here, I'll paraphrase from page 2 of the Q & A, emphasis mine: '...notwithstanding reductions in trans-Atlantic growth plans, the combined JV trans-Atlantic network will grow this winter by 3 percent, though not as much originally planned.'
If it was Delta Air Lines that would be growing by 3% in the Atlantic, they would have said Delta Air Lines. Instead, they said "the JV Trans-Atlantic network." Further, they said the reductions in the Atlantic at Delta will free up those Delta aircraft to fly Pacific routes abandoned by the 744.
They couldn't have been more clear. Delta will be flying less Delta aircraft in the Atlantic. The JV network will grow by 3% in the Atlantic. This will widen our imbalance in the JV and it will occur during the "cure period" of our scope section.
Carl
If it was Delta Air Lines that would be growing by 3% in the Atlantic, they would have said Delta Air Lines. Instead, they said "the JV Trans-Atlantic network." Further, they said the reductions in the Atlantic at Delta will free up those Delta aircraft to fly Pacific routes abandoned by the 744.
They couldn't have been more clear. Delta will be flying less Delta aircraft in the Atlantic. The JV network will grow by 3% in the Atlantic. This will widen our imbalance in the JV and it will occur during the "cure period" of our scope section.
Carl
What's your position on that shiznit?
Carl
I feel sheepish this morning. I made my point. Then, I let someone get under my skin, got angry (internet angry is both the worst and silliest kind of angry), and loosed a rhetorical flourish that destroyed my credibility.
That's some rookie forensics, right there.
That's some rookie forensics, right there.
Carl
This is just one of several occasions when Barry has tossed American pilots under the bus. The highlights include whatever devil's bargain he made with the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, and what he directed to happen at OMB during the endgame of FAR 117.
And now this. I must say his actions make it impossible to support him as an airline pilot. I have no confidence that he is actually on the side of organized labor.
And now this. I must say his actions make it impossible to support him as an airline pilot. I have no confidence that he is actually on the side of organized labor.
You should retract your assertion. It is as false as it is offensive to the dozen-odd Delta pilots who work very hard on the Hill. The Pilot Partisan agenda is more than just a slogan to us, it represents the only way ALPA can stay relevant and avoid getting cornered in a very toxic political environment.
Carl
Also, if my fenced airplane going away while the fences are still up results in my displacement, then my displacement should happen while the fences are still up so I couldn't displace to the 777. That's only fair.
My two cents.
Carl
That is simply false. ALPA never endorsed Obama, does not endorse presidential candidates (thank GOD), and he received no money from ALPA PAC.
I could give a rat about the AFL-CIO - they don't pay dues. You pay dues, so I hope you will check the facts on this for yourself.
This is just one of several occasions when Barry has tossed American pilots under the bus. The highlights include whatever devil's bargain he made with the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, and what he directed to happen at OMB during the endgame of FAR 117.
And now this. I must say his actions make it impossible to support him as an airline pilot. I have no confidence that he is actually on the side of organized labor.
You should retract your assertion. It is as false as it is offensive to the dozen-odd Delta pilots who work very hard on the Hill. The Pilot Partisan agenda is more than just a slogan to us, it represents the only way ALPA can stay relevant and avoid getting cornered in a very toxic political environment.
I could give a rat about the AFL-CIO - they don't pay dues. You pay dues, so I hope you will check the facts on this for yourself.
This is just one of several occasions when Barry has tossed American pilots under the bus. The highlights include whatever devil's bargain he made with the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, and what he directed to happen at OMB during the endgame of FAR 117.
And now this. I must say his actions make it impossible to support him as an airline pilot. I have no confidence that he is actually on the side of organized labor.
You should retract your assertion. It is as false as it is offensive to the dozen-odd Delta pilots who work very hard on the Hill. The Pilot Partisan agenda is more than just a slogan to us, it represents the only way ALPA can stay relevant and avoid getting cornered in a very toxic political environment.
... but truth is the democratic party's sympathies are not with 50,000 filthy rich ex-military private sector unionized airline pilots that probably will not vote for them, will not canvass neighborhoods and man call centers like say the SEIU. Government unions and the IAM are where it's at. Who represents Boeing's unions anyways?
Not speaking for Jerry, but I think I agree with him on this. We shouldn't grant any relief from displacements. If the company wants to displace on the top end while hiring on the bottom, let them. With our record, any contractual relief we give will ultimately hurt US far worse.
Also, if my fenced airplane going away while the fences are still up results in my displacement, then my displacement should happen while the fences are still up so I couldn't displace to the 777. That's only fair.
My two cents.
Carl
Also, if my fenced airplane going away while the fences are still up results in my displacement, then my displacement should happen while the fences are still up so I couldn't displace to the 777. That's only fair.
My two cents.
Carl
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