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[QUOTE=gzsg;1713158]Why don't you post Canoll's letter to the line pilots he wants to lead?

Oh, that's right, he isn't writing one because we are just scum to him.

Top down. Same stuff, different day.

Jerry[/QUOTE

Jerry,

Why don't you write him a letter and ask him why he is qualified; why he should be president of ALPA, and what will he do for the line pilots.

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Originally Posted by MikefromMT (Post 1712971)

Thanks for the financial advice... However, I'd prefer a 400 hour probation to a 365 day probation.

I may have missed something but what does pay have to do with probation?

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Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1713172)

I may have missed something but what does pay have to do with probation?

Probation ends at 400 hours or 365 days - whichever comes first

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Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1713172)

I may have missed something but what does pay have to do with probation?

Maybe nothing... this guy was just trying to learn info on how to maximize his hours and how limits interacted with WS etc. He wants HOURS so that he can get off probation. I don't recall him ever mentioning PAY... and as a guy making first year pay, he probably needs more of that too!

I can empathize... I usually fly 50 hrs a month, that's where the time-away-from-home line crosses the money-received line for me in the "Play vs Work Utility Chart". However, when I was on probation, I tried to fly to the max I could, for exactly what MikeFromMt is inferring--to get off probation! Not being "at risk" for everything and any small mistake was vastly more important to me than pay.

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Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1713021)

Don't worry about that guy. There are guys on here that think it is absolutely ridiculous that anyone would ever pick up anything above what you are awarded. Most of those guys have parents that bought them houses and BMW's, wives that make more than they do, no kids, etc.

You get a pass on first year pay for doing whatever it takes to make it work. Most guys (other than the one's described above) will also buy your drinks and food on layovers the first year.

You can have an "amen."

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1713154)

In other words, it's possible for a reserve to fly up to 99 hours during high ALV months.
Yes, possible, but highly unlikely unless every other pilot with the days available is also in bucket 3 and there is a 3-4 day trip with precisely the amount of time that would fit.

You said "over guarantee by no more than 15:00 credit hours." look at that euphemistic language. Why can't you say "ALV + 15?" Or is that to concessionary-sounding?
Thanks for the correction, you are correct, it is ALV+15. (PWA 23.S.2.a.1)

The "full" number is based upon each indvidual pilot's calculated guarantee and is reduced for vacation, training, MLOA, etc. Before C2012 all reserves were "on the hook" until ALV.

I hate it when "concessions" lead to an average of 66 more hours of guaranteed pay and add 6-18 more days off per year for pilots on reserve, bummer.....

Anyway, I thought that ALV +15 would only be used in international categories--which is what you preached during the C12 sales job.
I "preached" nothing, how many times has a 99 hour month occurred? I'd love to know.

On the plus side, if you're flying 99 hours a month, you probably won't be able to sit all 7 short calls (which was another concession).
Agreed, nobody likes to do short call.

I don't like ALV+15.
I think the limit should be mirrored to the LCW, not what is essentially a mirror of the WS pickup limit. If what the company can legally "build" for a lineholder is ALV+7.5, that should also be the max that a reserve pilot should be "built" to unless they WS/YS, respectively.

The 5:15 ADG will mean less work for the same amount of pay for reserve pilots.

I'd like to see a 5:15 credit, not just RAW for short call assignments.

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1713154)

In other words, it's possible for a reserve to fly up to 99 hours during high ALV months.

You said "over guarantee by no more than 15:00 credit hours." look at that euphemistic language. Why can't you say "ALV + 15?" Or is that to concessionary-sounding?

Anyway, I thought that ALV +15 would only be used in international categories--which is what you preached during the C12 sales job.

On the plus side, if you're flying 99 hours a month, you probably won't be able to sit all 7 short calls (which was another concession).

What you state is absolutely correct....of course what you fail to mention is that in C2012 the reserve guarantee was permanently raised for all reserves, forever. Further, you did not mention that with the old system, if you had vacation, mil leave, etc., that NONE of it applied to how much the company could fly you. So if you had 7 days of vacation in a month, guess what? The company could fly you to the ALV outside of those days. If you had even more days it was even worse. Now those days count against your "personal" reserve guarantee.

The ability to fly to ALV+15 was a concession, no doubt. However there were some positives as well. And let's not even talk about how reserve was "way back when." As it is it is a fairly good system we have. That of course is category and time-of-year dependent.

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Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 1713192)

The ability to fly to ALV+15 was a concession, no doubt.

Well, there certainly would be a "doubt" if you took DALPA's C12 road show and slick marketing materials at face value.

Wouldn't it be nice to get an objective explanation from "our" "union" instead of the utterly one-sided propaganda we saw on C12?

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1713203)

Wouldn't it be nice to get an objective explanation of "our" "union" instead of the utterly one-sided propaganda we see from Purple Drank on a daily basis?

Fixed your post.... I knew you'd appreciate it. ;)

By the way... you in on the wager of a case of beer if Heidi gets elected? Nothing fancy, I'll stoop to beer, and nothing exotic. 1 year after the election, if head count doesn't decrease by 10% you buy me a case of Yeungleung.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1713207)

Fixed your post.... I knew you'd appreciate it. ;)

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I guess you would be against reading the "con" papers back when we had them.