Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-29-2014 | 04:59 AM
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From: 767er Captain
I took the last ER plan at age 62 and never looked back. I would have taken it at 60 if it had been offered. As has been discussed before, health insurance costs are a big issue before you are eligible for Medicare. I was able to go on my wife's insurance which made my choice easier. As an aside, I would have had to medically retire when I was 63.
I know you did max. You were the exception, not the rule.
08-29-2014 | 05:00 AM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
I read no stipulation that all four have to be in use at the same time.
08-29-2014 | 05:06 AM
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I don't understand. Some of you people have been complaining about Moak for a long time. If I knew how to do it I would go back and quote some posts about how he should be impeached for A,B and C. Yet it was all apparently internet bloviating. Or was it? Now since someone says all these things are true, it makes me wonder why those proceedings were never initiated. Instead, it was more "effective" to go out and attempt to burn down the house, instead of removing the rats. Caplinger's motives are becoming a lot more clearer with this.....
08-29-2014 | 05:14 AM
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Scenario: The company says we want to get rid of the whales, but they do not make up the most senior guys on the list. We don't want to train them. How do we incentivize those guys to leave? Early retirement plan. OK. But they are not by and large more senior than the 777 guys. So if we offer it to the most senior guys on the list, the 777 guys might leave generating more training. We don't want that. So we'll buy you a few more 330s. How's that? You mean the ones that you really need, and that you are gonna announce in a couple of months anyway? For that, you get to offer retirement to a select bunch of guys? Why are we even having this discussion? If I were a 63 year old 777 pilot, I would be livid.
No. Bigger pays more, this is another side benefit.
08-29-2014 | 05:16 AM
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08-29-2014 | 05:19 AM
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UAL used to operate 44 747-400. They're down to 23 now. One other point, their network is different than ours, with a hub structure that should be able to support larger jets. Even in this airline economy they've been unsuccessful at doing that, and in June they had a complete revenue and finance management makeover. Also, their widebody order book is, in general, for smaller aircraft than they're currently operating (787 and A350).
UAL has lagged Delta 1-4 years in making decisions and accomplishing goals. Look for their fleet changes to accelerate in 2015 (they've just started the regional restructuring Delta began in 2012). If/when they ever get their act together they will be a phenomenal competitor.
United Continental Holdings, Inc. - Investor Relations - Fleet Information
UAL 2003 (page 11)
08-29-2014 | 05:22 AM
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If we pay ANYTHING to allow this, it is wrong. And we always do. Always have. And the benefits are minimal at best. No mass exodus, and it doesn't happen for months or years.
Re-run reel 'A' Mr Projectionist.
Re-run reel 'A' Mr Projectionist.
08-29-2014 | 05:24 AM
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08-29-2014 | 05:28 AM
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These "early out" programs are nothing but crap to appease the troops. There will be no significant number of pilots that leave because of any program. The ones that do will only be leaving a month or two early anyway. Been there, seen this, got several expensive T shirts to prove it. We'll pay a lot for a Yugo. There should be no negotiations on this. If it is a good deal, the company would just offer it. What is there to negotiate? They want to mitigate a flush of training supposedly, right? What is there for us to do that could help in this arena? No... we are gonna pay something, and whatever it is, it's too much.
Why don't our reps get this? Seems the NC is just jonesing and needs a fix. Just say NO! and step away.
08-29-2014 | 05:30 AM
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