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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1715996)

Also--where's MD on this? How about a clear, concise letter (absent the usual legalese and mealy wording) from him stating that we expect to make gains in return for helping solve the company's self-inflicted crisis. And if the company won't provide those gains for every pilot on the list, the company can wait until Section 6 to address the issue.

Nah, what am I thinking. That would require some leadership and resolve.

"Crisis" ???? Drama much?

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1716021)

I am simply smart enough to know that a growing airline does not experience a training cascade when retiring airplanes.

Why don't you start by showing us you're smart enough to spell and properly utilize grammar?

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1716021)

In fact international widebody hours are projected to be 4 percent higher this winter and at least that much higher for the summer. Plenty of room to absorb those pilots without a cascade. It's not higher math as quite a few others have also pointed out here. The block hours are not going away they are shifting to other fleets.

If this were true, SD wouldn't have started off by discussing his hope to negotiate a displacement mitigation.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1716021)

I have seen no position from the company so not sure how I am posting it. I guessed I missed the memo. Trust me on this, retiring 16 aircraft over a 24 to 36 month period will not even have the training department breathing hard let alone the chaos you predict.

Not even crew planning would make such a statement given the changes that could occur in the next 24 to 36 months. You have no idea.

Carl

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Originally Posted by Hillbilly (Post 1715792)

Don't feed him in the open. They can be very unpredictable when taunted with food.

Hmmm... Well, he was very skinny.... and old.

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Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1716074)

PD,

I assure you I'm part of no "in crowd". My point was simply that I don't think we don't have some enormous unused leverage that some are purporting.

An early out benefits us, the question is how much the company. The point some are making is they might not be in the bind some suppose and desperately need our help which we are supposedly giving them for nothing.

That's certainly true in your case man, you're an independent thinker. But PD's point about the other usual suspects is well taken. I don't have enough information to decide, but I'm definitely troubled when I see guys like Karnak, slowplay and the others dusted off. When that happens, it's generally because something's already been decided and the game of making reps and pilots think they're part of the process begins.

Carl

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Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1716074)

PD,

I assure you I'm part of no "in crowd".

Sorry, bro. I apologize for including you in that list.

ALERT ALERT ALERT... Anybody seen fTB? He gotta be worried........

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1716103)

There are plenty of usual suspects here bout's :eek: I prefer to listen to everyone's perspective and balance the pro/cons.

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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1716066)

Exactly. It's in everyone's best interest to avoid displacements. What many here fail to realize when they claim that displacing 744 pilots will only affect 330/765/777 pilots is that those are vacancies that would otherwise have gone to a junior pilot, hence allowing upward movement across most of the seniority list. Why would we want to fight the company over this?

Speaking as one who would most likely be displaced:(, the above is a very valid point.

Denny

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1716110)

ALERT ALERT ALERT... Anybody seen fTB? He gotta be worried........

Well whenever that TStorm passes Auburn can continue it's second half dominance of Arkansas!!

Sorry to hear you are parking 747s.

Out of curiosity, where are they currently based and where do they fly?