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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
(Post 1724580)
THats a hard pill to swallow. WHen that 2001 N hire got furloughed, some dude started training at All ATPs. That dude finished his ratings, got hired at Comair and then Delta picked him up in 2007/08. Now that 2008 hire is senior to the one that lost his job at the expense of DCI growth and 9/11. Life is not fair sometimes. Oh well. Beers on me for any 2001 hire!
Our seniority integration was done fairly, but there were some who got screwed. Not enough got screwed to make a difference, but hopefully moving forward, the ones that got screwed wont get screwed again. <---Im not one of those..FYI TEN |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1724710)
Is it fair that 767 and ER lineholders were integrated with DC9 and furlough bypass pilots?
How many positions should a NWA pilot get to move up and how many positions would a Delta pilot need to be displaced to provide satisfaction? |
Originally Posted by Howgozit
(Post 1724798)
From yesterdays crew resources base visit. Dtw 777 will draw down a few positions, MSP 777 will open (can't remember how many positions) and ATL 777 will see a slight increase. Also NYC 330 should open first quarter of 2015.
So we are taking a 18 aircraft fleet and splitting it into 3 bases? And we wonder why a 16 fleet airplane in a single base (with trips that mostly begin with DHs) can't work. Brilliant. Of course the fact that the whales lose $1M/month or something like that probably has something to do with it too... |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1724925)
Of course the fact that the whales lose $1M/month or something like that probably has something to do with it too...
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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1724925)
So we are taking a 18 aircraft fleet and splitting it into 3 bases? And we wonder why a 16 fleet airplane in a single base (with trips that mostly begin with DHs) can't work. Brilliant.
Of course the fact that the whales lose $1M/month or something like that probably has something to do with it too... Alternatively, why not fly the whales with a couple of engines shut down? My father did a three engine ferry with a 100, then ended up shutting another down. They made it from Africa to Miami just fine (at which point he got off the airplane and refused to fly it any more). :o |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1724911)
The thing that brought this up was someone talking about what someone with a DOH of XXXX could hold. I responded that that was irrelevant, got an earful from him, and all this angst resulted. The fact is though, that DOH IS irrelevant to what someone can hold in the post merger environment no matter how butthurt 1067 gets in being asked about that fact. I'd just rather relevant and useful information be put out, that's all, especially to someone not yet hired.
Now that we know it's better to use seniority numbers as a means of reference, and since the position of on pilot isn't going to change relative to another pilot, we're pretty much good on this topic. |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1724913)
Geoff Plouffe can answer that.
Then he added, if he could be Captain. When someone pointed out that he could, he added at a base of his choosing. Oh, and with a dynamic accelerator which awards him the results of NWA attrition, Plus, no adjustment for "his" fleet or network going away because Delta management is to blame for that. yeah, that all sounds reasonable ... can we use him to threaten other airlines? I mean, say "here is our merger committee, but if you make this difficult, we're unleashing our Plouffe." For some reason I like the guy. He's absolutely insane*, God love him. ------ Insane: in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; |
Originally Posted by Sink r8
(Post 1724937)
I don't think I was slamming you, T.
Now that we know it's better to use seniority numbers as a means of reference, and since the position of on pilot isn't going to change relative to another pilot, we're pretty much good on this topic. http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps53e0ff5a.png http://www.nesretro.com/yabbfiles/At...s/NotHappy.gif |
Originally Posted by Sink r8
(Post 1724937)
I don't think I was slamming you, T.
Now that we know it's better to use seniority numbers as a means of reference, and since the position of on pilot isn't going to change relative to another pilot, we're pretty much good on this topic. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1724939)
He said two.
Then he added, if he could be Captain. When someone pointed out that he could, he added at a base of his choosing. Oh, and with a dynamic accelerator which awards him the results of NWA attrition, Plus, no adjustment for "his" fleet or network going away because Delta management is to blame for that. yeah, that all sounds reasonable ... can we use him to threaten other airlines? I mean, say "here is our merger committee, but if you make this difficult, we're unleashing our Plouffe." It was a rhetorical question as I know his answer. I heard enough of his argument on the old dALPA site. Unregard.. I see you addressed that in a sentence above that I didn't read... :( |
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