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Sink r8 09-11-2014 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1724939)
blahblahblah...dynamic accelerator...blahblah

Oh no, you didn't!

tsquare 09-11-2014 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 1724932)
Good thing they just flew them all over the world to get the entire cabin and associated entertainment electrical system torn out and replaced.

No doubt..........

flyallnite 09-11-2014 09:14 AM

If a pilot is seat locked, can he or she be awarded a newly established category and equipment? For example, a 330B has a year left on the 2 year lock, can he or she be awarded MSP 777B on the opening bid? Does the same apply to a B that gets an A award in a newly established category? I know in the case of an upgrade, they take the lock and apply the remaining time to the captain position, but does that apply in the case of a newly established category? For example, would our 330B to a 777A incur a 3 year lock or only 2? I thought this was addressed in Filling of Vacancies but I can't find any reference to brand new categories or bases...

forgot to bid 09-11-2014 09:14 AM

Has any of the 16 744s gone to the boneyard yet and had their wings chopped off?

Sink r8 09-11-2014 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1724949)
If a pilot is seat locked, can he or she be awarded a newly established category and equipment? For example, a 330B has a year left on the 2 year lock, can he or she be awarded MSP 777B on the opening bid?

I'm no expert, but I would be willing to bet your right arm that the answers are "yes", and "yes".

Sink r8 09-11-2014 09:19 AM

Where are you guys getting the new Crew Resources Monthly Update from? I only see the current in Deltanet.

Alan Shore 09-11-2014 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1724949)
If a pilot is seat locked, can he or she be awarded a newly established category and equipment?

Yes, he can. Check out 22 A. 7., the definition of category freeze.

forgot to bid 09-11-2014 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1724949)
If a pilot is seat locked, can he or she be awarded a newly established category and equipment? For example, a 330B has a year left on the 2 year lock, can he or she be awarded MSP 777B on the opening bid? Does the same apply to a B that gets an A award in a newly established category? I know in the case of an upgrade, they take the lock and apply the remaining time to the captain position, but does that apply in the case of a newly established category? For example, would our 330B to a 777A incur a 3 year lock or only 2? I thought this was addressed in Filling of Vacancies but I can't find any reference to brand new categories or bases...

23.a.7. “Category freeze” means a period of time

a. that is determined under Section 22 G.,
b. that commences on the date of a pilot’s award of an AE or VD for which qualification training is required or on an entry level pilot’s date of employment with the Company 22 as a pilot, and
c. during which the pilot will (unless declared eligible by the Company) be ineligible to be awarded another AE with an earliest conversion date falling within the freeze period (other than to a new or reestablished category) for which qualification training is required.

flyallnite 09-11-2014 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1724963)
23.a.7. “Category freeze” means a period of time

a. that is determined under Section 22 G.,
b. that commences on the date of a pilot’s award of an AE or VD for which qualification training is required or on an entry level pilot’s date of employment with the Company 22 as a pilot, and
c. during which the pilot will (unless declared eligible by the Company) be ineligible to be awarded another AE with an earliest conversion date falling within the freeze period (other than to a new or reestablished category) for which qualification training is required.

...So then the pilot, upon being awarded that new or reestablished category, if qual training is required, will incur the lock upon getting that award, I presume? What about upgrading into a new category with time left on a seat lock... does that time get added or does it go away?

Alan Shore 09-11-2014 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1724972)
So then the pilot, upon being awarded that new or reestablished category, if qual training is required, will incur the lock upon getting that award, I presume?

Correct.


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1724972)
What about upgrading into a new category with time left on a seat lock... does that time get added or does it go away?

It goes away. You simply incur a two-year freeze in that new position.


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