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Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 1725354)
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
(Post 1725125)
Im good with the pre 9/11 list. My worry is concerning future mergers. My worry is not for me but for the others. Besides, T, you and I are set with our finances. We dont need this "gig" to define us. Im ok with being a NB Captain, I never cared for working long haul or widebody.
My Brother; You are a genius and I can never ever be up to PAR with your smarts. But I will tell you this; HA and AK are not of the same value or level as DL or NWA. In my honest opinion, HA and AK are Second Tier Airlines. You can never make me believe or convince me that their pilots come ahead of us. NEVER. Im not being arrogant. This is the truth. HA is a debt ridden, heavily leveraged and subsidized airline (ALoha, Go etc.) while AK has grown and flourished because of our neglect on competition and the subsidies of the state of ALaska (Both NWA and DL handed over Alaska the routes). AK and HA are second tier. My saying this is not out of arrogance, but of truth. If you take a historical snapshot, you will see that many of their pilots had their apps in at NWA or DL. I will give you two or three names at least that will verify this. If we are buying, they should be stapled. Greedy on my part. However, in reality, it is for my brothers. Im set, dont need the $$ or seniority. Dont sell yourself short. You work for a TOP TIER AIRLINE. Respectfully always, TEN |
Originally Posted by RockyBoy
(Post 1724805)
Where does the 777 go from MSP?
They must be going to add many more 777 destinations out of MSP...? :rolleyes: I heard the 747 (or what's left of them) was going to take a lot of the DTW-China stuff and for our October trips, we are seeing the 777's pick up lots of the 747 stuff (ATL-NRT, NYC-TLV, NRT-JFK). Some times I think they guys in Crew Resources and Network mix this stuff every couple years, just to justify their own existence.:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
(Post 1725355)
That's odd. It works fine for me. :confused:
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
(Post 1725351)
Whether you like DPA or hate DPA, I think the following chart provides some pretty good perspective:
Rates Comparison Page Not Found The page /storage/docs/DPA Pay Rates Contract Comparison.pdf could not be located on this website. --- Huh. Doesn't work in Firefox but does in Safari. |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1724735)
What was interesting (to me) in this A/E was the lack of backfilling in the wide body categories. 4 DTW 777 A's moved down to ATL 777, none were replaced in DTW, net loss of 4 777 Capts. Several 777 B's left for other places, none were replaced.
In the past 18mo. 17 ATL 777 A's have retired, this bid only replace 10 of them. Net loss 7. One 747 A went to SEA A330 A, obviously they weren't going to replace him. With the parking of 4 747's this year, and 4 more next year, it's going to get ugly, as the top comes down to meet at the A330. Luckily we have some coming, so there should be room, but I don't think we are getting 8 new A330's in the next 18 mo, are we? Their (crew planning) intention is to open a "mini" B777 base in MSP the 1st quarter of 2015 and IF that is successful, they will open another "mini" base in LAX. There are a few B747 pilots who consistently rely on the early DH and asked if they should displace into the DTW B777 base (after the fence is down) to take advantage of that plum? I don't know if I agree if one can do a "voluntary displacement" into a category without an opening but I also will admit my ignorance of the contract in this area. The rest of the information presented was very upbeat. I was impressed with Capt Jim Graham's and his counterpart's presentation from Inflight. The gentleman from the OCC was very forthcoming for the need of major improvements in the way we communicate with Dispatch, Crew Coordinators, Accommodations, etc. Not much was asked about the Surface EFB (we all seem to be a little jaded on any prediction). Fly safe, OC |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1725358)
I heard the 747 (or what's left of them) was going to take a lot of the DTW-China stuff and for our October trips, we are seeing the 777's pick up lots of the 747 stuff (ATL-NRT, NYC-TLV, NRT-JFK).
747-400 NRT NGO ICN PVG A-330-200 PEK No 777 departures by November. |
Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 1725354)
Link doesn't work.
Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 1725363)
I get this when I click on the link:
Page Not Found The page /storage/docs/DPA Pay Rates Contract Comparison.pdf could not be located on this website. Oh no. Don't tell me the Tennessee cheerleaders hacked the DPA website again. :eek::D http://gatewayanimals.org/wp-content...er-Slacker.jpg Carl |
Originally Posted by OceanCrosser
(Post 1725364)
This may be old news, but while listening to Crew Planning during the NRT base visit, they said the DTW B777 base was going to stay status quo (no departures and all rotations begin with a DH). Any reduction will come from attrition and then possibly an announcement of closure after 6 to 9 months.
Their (crew planning) intention is to open a "mini" B777 base in MSP the 1st quarter of 2015 and IF that is successful, they will open another "mini" base in LAX. There are a few B747 pilots who consistently rely on the early DH and asked if they should displace into the DTW B777 base (after the fence is down) to take advantage of that plum? I don't know if I agree if one can do a "voluntary displacement" into a category without an opening but I also will admit my ignorance of the contract in this area. The rest of the information presented was very upbeat. I was impressed with Capt Jim Graham's and his counterpart's presentation from Inflight. The gentleman from the OCC was very forthcoming for the need of major improvements in the way we communicate with Dispatch, Crew Coordinators, Accommodations, etc. Not much was asked about the Surface EFB (we all seem to be a little jaded on any prediction). Fly safe, OC On the one hand, it would seem they only want a 'mini base' in LAX and MSP to eliminate the DH legs on both ends of all the 777 trips in/out of there, just like when they opened the JFK 777 base, to eliminate the DH from ATL up to NYC, for the BOM trip... How'd that work out? But on the other hand, why keep DTW 777 open if then EVERY trip will begin and end with a DH? That makes no sense to me, but most of what they do when it comes to basing pilots never has. :rolleyes: Oh, and on the voluntary displacement, the way it works is, if you are 'senior' in your category but want to voluntarily displace to another category, for that one move, you will only be able to displace to where the JUNIOR most pilot, who would be Mandatorily displaced, would be able to hold a slot. I.E. you assume his juniority when you voluntarily displace, only for the bid run, to get into your new category, then your normal seniority number will be in effect once you are in the new category. As an example, if you are Number 1 in your category of say, 200 pilots, and they are going to displace 20 guys out, (number 180-200) for you to voluntarily displace, you can only go to where the bottom guy (number 200-180) who would have been displaced could hold a seat. Right now, the bottom 747 guys cannot hold the 777 in either DTW or ATL, so even the number one 747 guy could not "voluntarily" displace into it. But if they were to open a MSP/LAX base, any one can bid it, straight seniority. And once the fence comes down of course, then anyone who can hold it can bid in as in any normal bid. |
Originally Posted by contrails
(Post 1725416)
The November DTW Asia flying is as follows:
747-400 NRT NGO ICN PVG A-330-200 PEK No 777 departures by November. So once again, the Network and Crew Resources guys open a 777 base for a few years, only to close it...because THEY moved the flying around... These guys are Brilliant! I swear, they only do it to justify their own existence!:rolleyes: Here's a CLUE for those clueless nitwits: Delta only has 18 777's!! BASE THEM ALL IN ATL (like they were at one time) and let everyone DH from there! (you morons!) :rolleyes: |
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