Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1731427)

The two surveys in question aren't necessarily trying to be statistically acurate. A more accurate description of them is "politically accurate". An elected official doesn't care about the opinion of someone who doesn't participate in the political process. I suspect there is a roll for Wilson polling which is statistically accurate but it is simply a data point to determine where there may be a divergence from what the politically active think and what the general population thinks.

Our system is set up so those who actually attend meetings and propose resolutions are heard the loudest. Sometimes that leads to a vocal minority driving the agenda. As good as technology is now I think we could do more to make participating easier. In my opinion more people involved means a better system.

That said, if you are reading this you have probably already taken the survey so I'm not going to say take the survey. Instead you should tell everyone you run into to take the survey. I'm talking about the ALPA survey since they actually represent us.

Originally Posted by RetiredFTS (Post 1731499)

The last 5 trips I have flown, only one of the pilots (CA and JS) knew the DALPA survey was out. None seemed to care, but maybe as the deadline approaches the interest increases.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1731712)

Damn... Peyton almost pulled it out..... I hate Pete Carrol, but gotta respect the Seahawks...

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1731635)

Now, ask yourself why that is...

I've got several theories, probably a combination of two.

1. some are lazy.

2. some are so p/o'd after 4-8-3-3, they figure it's a waste of their time.

The MEC is going to do what ever they want, (CDO anyone? Reduced profit sharing anyone?) and feel that the survey is just a ruse to appease the angry mob.

My last trip both Capts were working on it, neither F/O was...

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1731712)

Damn... Peyton almost pulled it out..... I hate Pete Carrol, but gotta respect the Seahawks...

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1731696)

Hey Denny

People are throwing at Sherman now, eh?;)

Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1731750)

DALPA has only themselves to blame.
I'm surprised anyone takes the survey seriously after what happened with C2012.

When management came to the table and wanted a fast deal it took the MEC administration about 5 seconds to ditch the survey and all the months of preparation and "input" from line pilots.