Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1731774)

Yeah, they are.............................I hope they keep doing it this season!;)

Denny

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1731635)

Now, ask yourself why that is...

I've got several theories, probably a combination of two.

1. some are lazy.

2. some are so p/o'd after 4-8-3-3, they figure it's a waste of their time.

The MEC is going to do what ever they want, (CDO anyone? Reduced profit sharing anyone?) and feel that the survey is just a ruse to appease the angry mob.

My last trip both Capts were working on it, neither F/O was...

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1731773)

I thought it was over when the Bronco's got the ball with 59 seconds and no timeouts.... :eek:

Geez, what a nail biter!

Up here, Pete can do no wrong!:)

Denny

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1731735)

I still think this 'sudden death' overtime is nutz.

Each team should at least get a set of downs.

I love to watch Payton lose, but he really made a game out of it late, considering they were down 17-3 at the start of the 4th Q. (where were they all game?)

Another classic Payton comeback, but I would have liked to have seen what he could have done in the OT.

Too bad it's decided by the flip of a coin. :rolleyes:

(watching Carolina walk all over Pittsburgh right now)

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1731794)

Pete's an ass. Just ask the USC folks down here.:)

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1731829)

I did the Seahawks charter after their first game last year. The flight attendants loved him and the rest of the team. As in, they went overboard in singing their praises. (Professional, nice, well-mannered, etc.)

Maybe it's a LAX/SEA thing? :)

Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1731016)

I was comparing the results of differing approaches to bankruptcy.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1731016)

There are three reasons why your chart is of no significance to that comparison:

Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1731016)

1. You look at contracts from 2014, more than 8 years after the last bankruptcy contract was signed

Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1731016)

2. You include in your comparison companies that never went bankrupt

Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1731016)

3. You include Fedex and UPS which aren't even companies that compete in our industry

Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1731016)

There are numerous reasons why your chart is useless even in today's environment, but that also isn't germane to my argument.

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1731835)

Wow, the FAs loved a sports team?:) Every charter I've ever flown were full of fawning FAs. News flash! I wouldn't take that to the bank.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no USC fan. I live in LA and I hate the Lakers. Pete left his wife and was shacking up with a student female intern in Santa Monica which is one of the reasons why he left USC. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I've seen that before.;)

Personally, I still haven't gotten over the Fail Mary, the replacement refs, and Pete masturbating in the end zone. Cost the Packers home field advantage that year in the playoffs.

Finally, the whole "12th man" thing actually was created by Texas A&M, not the Sea Hawk fans. I layover in SEA about 3 times a month, love it. But its a hollow emotion. They won't repeat because they're just a little too full of themselves.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1731851)

You said we ended up with the best work rules, the best pay rates, etc. That was wrong then and it's wrong now. The chart clearly shows that.



"Of no significance?" I figured you would think that. When you can't attack accuracy, you attack significance.



I'm looking at the contract comparison that was just put out by DALPA. You were wrong about your bankruptcy assertion, now we're moving on to how wrong you are about inferring we have the best contract in the industry.



See above. We're moving to the next topic.



That was your exact statements back before C2012 and it always fascintated me. You said we couldn't talk about SWA because they have a different business model, and we couldn't talk about UPS and FDX because they don't compete in our industry. What's fascinating is that you made these statements at a time when you held a senior level position in the MEC administration. I can't imagine why you would do that. You were supposed to be making our case...not management's case. Yet you consistently stated these ridiculous arguments that hurt the negotiating position of the pilots you were supposed to be working for. Very strange.



Really? Please let us know why they are useless in today's environment.

Carl

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1731835)

Wow, the FAs loved a sports team?:) Every charter I've ever flown were full of fawning FAs. News flash! I wouldn't take that to the bank.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no USC fan. I live in LA and I hate the Lakers. Pete left his wife and was shacking up with a student female intern in Santa Monica which is one of the reasons why he left USC. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I've seen that before.

Personally, I still haven't gotten over the Fail Mary, the replacement refs, and Pete masturbating in the end zone. Cost the Packers home field advantage that year in the playoffs.

Finally, the whole "12th man" thing actually was created by Texas A&M, not the Sea Hawk fans. I layover in SEA about 3 times a month, love it. But its a hollow emotion. They won't repeat because they're just a little too full of themselves.