Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1742503)

Some of the best holidays I've ever had have been "off schedule" improvs. Family time is family time, any day of the calendar.

You don't have to have grown up poor working hard jobs for low pay to get it, although it does help put things in perspective. A 4 day green slip can help someone drop 8 days later with no loss in pay. Its all how you manage it. Or missing a "quickie vacation" for a motherload 12 day can put in a pool, finish a basement or finance an awesome longer vacation later, pay for a year of college, buy a nice new car or pay for 2 months off by trip dropping later. I don't do many 5 day quickie vacations that are worth more than that. Its all in the balance of course.

Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 1742597)

Has the Mideast war and the ebola outbreak pushed back our WB aircraft order?

Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 1742597)

Has the Mideast war and the ebola outbreak pushed back our WB aircraft order?

Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1742440)

Someone please explain the whole, "Number of pilots senior to you with AE bids for ..."

I know the platform is fairly useless (I'm around 10,000 and only 370 guys senior to me have 777A bids in :rolleyes:) Does it ignore qualifications (such as percentage restrictions?)

Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 1742456)

Funny thing about greenslips, people always seem to be able to rationalize flying them. Oh little johnny doesn't really remember me not being there for his birthday, Christmas and football games or it doesn't really hurt the furloughees. If you want to fly them then fly them, I would rather have a straight wage that didn't make you feel like you had to fly them.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1742503)

Exactly. Time off with family is great and necessary. But if you are able to change plans with your schedule, you can often leverage a plan cancellation into siginificantly more time with family only a short time later.

There is nothing wrong or parentally irresponsibile with occasionally bagging plans at the last minute if it results in something positive down the road such as more time off with family with more money to do things. Pretty much all hard working people have to do this a lot more than we are even in the position to choose to do it. Couple that with showing them a strong work ethic first hand and sometimes its worth missing certain ritualistic calendar days. We have somehow slid into an institutionalized work ethic that is pathetic and full of entitlements and sloth. Case in point the legions that pay 6 figures for a free readling list of personally interesting material and then riot/occupy in the streets for high paying jobs they never earned. Some of the best holidays I've ever had have been "off schedule" improvs. Family time is family time, any day of the calendar.

You don't have to have grown up poor working hard jobs for low pay to get it, although it does help put things in perspective. A 4 day green slip can help someone drop 8 days later with no loss in pay. Its all how you manage it. Or missing a "quickie vacation" for a motherload 12 day can put in a pool, finish a basement or finance an awesome longer vacation later, pay for a year of college, buy a nice new car or pay for 2 months off by trip dropping later. I don't do many 5 day quickie vacations that are worth more than that. Its all in the balance of course.

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1742627)

Lol. Most of our guys never drop any trips after getting a greenslip. Most of our guys just fly to the max. They pick up anything and everything. Dropping trips means less pay which a lot of our guys aren't willing to do. To each his own. I've picked up 2 greenslips in my career. The first one was a 4 day that I didn't want. I had put in a blanket greenslip without realizing that greenslips are not proffers. I flew it and my wife was furious at me because she had to go out with a bunch of couples without me. She made plans that weekend because it was first weekend I had off in months. Learned my lesson. The second one was a 2-day that I picked up when I had a 4 day dropped for OE. My wife didn't care about that one as she was expecting me to work anyway. I will do a greenslip if I have no plans. Once plans are made with my family, going to work is off the table. My wife is really good about working around my schedule. She understands that I might get home a day late a couple of times per year. She gets upset though if I pick up trips after plans are made. I want my relationship to work. A lot of our pilots end up divorced and wonder what happened. I am obviously in the minority here with my opinion on greenslips.