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Again, I ask. How does this square with the FAA's reg for 8 hours of sleep? I'm assuming because it fits into the definition of a duty day. I, for one, am much more fatigued after a "sit" then I am flying multiple legs with minimum turn. It's a switch on, switch off for me. YMMV.
Seriously? You mean the guys that are apparently looking for blood from a fellow Delta pilot (if any "hacking" even took place.)
I don't want any part of a crowd that is trying to harm one of us for political traction. Even if everything they allege is true, it was such a stupid prank that I can't believe we're even still talking about it.
They'll claim until the cows come home that they are simply defending their right to contest representation, but this is really about being vindictive and trying to get a few "sensation" points. I don't have any skin in this either way, but it pi$$es me off that TC and the gang won't let this go. It appears they will settle for nothing less than a public shaming (at best) or ruining somebody's career (totally unacceptable) all for a little attention.
Not singling you out CG, but your post happened to be the first one I saw after reading TC's latest editorial.
I don't want any part of a crowd that is trying to harm one of us for political traction. Even if everything they allege is true, it was such a stupid prank that I can't believe we're even still talking about it.
They'll claim until the cows come home that they are simply defending their right to contest representation, but this is really about being vindictive and trying to get a few "sensation" points. I don't have any skin in this either way, but it pi$$es me off that TC and the gang won't let this go. It appears they will settle for nothing less than a public shaming (at best) or ruining somebody's career (totally unacceptable) all for a little attention.
Not singling you out CG, but your post happened to be the first one I saw after reading TC's latest editorial.
FWIW, this "hacking" sideshow is not bringing any pilots together and will only weaken us going forward.. The alternative crowd would be wise to make it go away.
And DALPA would be wise to make CDO's go away..
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It's a complete waste of my time and it takes two days to do a one day trip.

NOW...if it paid say, 10:30 hours, then I might think about it (and still not bid it) but for two days out of my life, I want at least 5:15/day, i.e. 10:30.
BUT...I'm a commuter, my time is valuable, if I have to spend 5 hours both ways to get to/from ATL, it better be for at least 25hr. trip.
Some guy who lives in PTC might love it. Great, let him fly them, but don't you dare assign it to a commuting reserve.
How about we make them "Un-assignable" as in, you must BID IT to fly it. No reserve should be stuck with it, and no line holder should be Un-stacked into one.
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I don't like the idea of them to be honest. I am just saying that a hard, 6 hour behind the door restriction (NEVER reducible) in between two very short flights is quite a bit different than 3 hours only between much longer flights m
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Not no but HELL NO!
It's a complete waste of my time and it takes two days to do a one day trip.
NOW...if it paid say, 10:30 hours, then I might think about it (and still not bid it) but for two days out of my life, I want at least 5:15/day, i.e. 10:30.
BUT...I'm a commuter, my time is valuable, if I have to spend 5 hours both ways to get to/from ATL, it better be for at least 25hr. trip.
Some guy who lives in PTC might love it. Great, let him fly them, but don't you dare assign it to a commuting reserve.
How about we make them "Un-assignable" as in, you must BID IT to fly it. No reserve should be stuck with it, and no line holder should be Un-stacked into one.
It's a complete waste of my time and it takes two days to do a one day trip.

NOW...if it paid say, 10:30 hours, then I might think about it (and still not bid it) but for two days out of my life, I want at least 5:15/day, i.e. 10:30.
BUT...I'm a commuter, my time is valuable, if I have to spend 5 hours both ways to get to/from ATL, it better be for at least 25hr. trip.
Some guy who lives in PTC might love it. Great, let him fly them, but don't you dare assign it to a commuting reserve.
How about we make them "Un-assignable" as in, you must BID IT to fly it. No reserve should be stuck with it, and no line holder should be Un-stacked into one.
I might vote no to any TA with SDPs even if it did!
No. Absolutely not. You're rolling the dice on your career, I don't care what it pays. No!
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Once it became a known yellow fever/malaria destination, well, then Screw Sceds couldn't assign it to a reserve, it had to be white or green slipped. MED trips like that should ALWAYS pay double!

But, the same restrictions could be put on CDO's, i.e. they must be white/green slipped or bid in the original bid run.
Still, as Buzz points out, you are condoning something the FAA and ALPA is supposed to be against rest wise. (less than 9hrs. behind the door)
If I had my way... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGDZdy8lDmc
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Once it became a known yellow fever/malaria destination, well, then Screw Sceds couldn't assign it to a reserve, it had to be white or green slipped.
That must have been something special for just the 777. They can be assigned to reserves just like any other trip on the 767 and 330.
That must have been something special for just the 777. They can be assigned to reserves just like any other trip on the 767 and 330.
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Once it became a known yellow fever/malaria destination, well, then Screw Sceds couldn't assign it to a reserve, it had to be white or green slipped.
That must have been something special for just the 777. They can be assigned to reserves just like any other trip on the 767 and 330.
That must have been something special for just the 777. They can be assigned to reserves just like any other trip on the 767 and 330.
I had a discussion with the ATL Int. Chief Pilot about this very topic a few years ago. He asked me if I had my Malarone prescription.
I said, "Nope, I'm never going there, so I don't need it."
He said, "Well, what if they cancel your Dubai trip and assign you a Lagos trip for recovery?"
I said, "That's what sick leave is for, I'll just sick out of it BEFORE I go and get Malaria, so I'll save Delta a bundle in both Malarone prescriptions and malaria treatment costs."
No argument from him. BTW, he'd never been there either and had no desire to go, and this was BEFORE the Ebola thing!
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I am absolutely disgusted that Tim would go after individual pilots. The latest DPA email just floored me. Tim, you have single handedly killed the DPA drive. You would've had a lot more credibility if you just turned them over to pro standards. Pathetic.
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