80, UP is on the family channel. You lose the cone of shame.

 

Let's look at the current facts (approach plate or PWA, you pick ;-)

Our current PWA says Delta pilots fly 50% of EASKs on the Transatlantic JV. We aren't doing that.
It also gives the company a 3% band of wiggle room to comply. We still don't meet that.

Fact is, the company hasn't met the 3 year PWA 1.P.4 look-back on March 30, 2014 and won't meet the PWA 1.P.4 lookback on March 30, 2015.
At that point the non-compliance is grievable, whereas right now the non-compliance isn't.

We aren't were our legally binding contract says we are supposed to be.
The company also isn't making an effort to meet the PWA contractual obligations it signed off on.

You bring up looking at the past. Specifically our flying level of 2004 and 2008 but that's about as relevant as our pay rates from the then current PWA...

The current PWA is the measuring stick.
Whether flying an non-ILS or measuring EASK it's the current legal requirement that matters.
We either meet the current requirement or we don't.

Which is it?

The sad thing is I'm pretty sure you understand more of the nuances than most, yet you keep bringing in non-relevant points that obfuscate and marginalize the issue at hand.

Perhaps you have decided it's just not a big deal, so you choose to misdirect others...

Cheers
George

P.S. Based on your argument of "looking at the past" it probably wouldn't be a big deal to short your pay a couple of percent from the current PWA rates because, you know, it's still more than the rate of the last contract? Or is your rate less than in 2004 and you would rather have that rate? The current PWA is the measuring stick.

 

The MEC was briefed that over the course of the 3-year compliance period (April 2011 - March 2014) going from 47.2% to 50% would increase flying by 6-7 daily round trips.

2.8% = 6-7 daily roundtrips.

Q: did the subject matter expert knowingly mis-represent the percentage flying to the MEC or is sailingfun correct and all it is is 1 daily flight?

Cheers
George

 

Hmmm- I counted it up a couple months ago, and it was way less than 50 departures to europe a day. I seem to recall it being around 40.

 

Dumb question. I have a 4 hour layover in LAX, can I take my son into Flight Ops? Is family allowed and will the door guard allow it?

Thx

 

Auburn came back strong and would have won if not for those two fumbles. I was rooting for Texas A&M and I couldn't believe they held on!

 

All correct. I have no idea however what the above has to do with Carl's statements. He stated we have been reducing our flying percentage while AK/KLM were increasing theirs. I simply replied to that. It's not a true statement.

 

You did not understand the data. They stated the company would have to add 6 to 7 flights a day in the last year to bring the average up to be in compliance. That number was actually up to something around 14 departures per day in Aug. The less time left the more departures they would have to add to be in compliance. The overall rate for the entire period was just under two departures per day. With the AF strike that dropped to closer to one per day if you average it over the 4 years. I think however you could make a case before the arbitrator that the shutdown of AF for several weeks should not count as it was a aberration not considered by either side when the agreement was made.
I was just emailed more numbers but they match what I posted. Just prior to the AF strike we were just over 47% of the EASK which gave us over 65% of the actual block hours. To be contractually compliant the company needed to raise that to 48.5%. With 40 to 50 departures per day it's not hard to see that two more departures per day would have produced the percentage the company needed.

 

For once I agree with sailingfun's logic. Mark this day.

 

Yes, you can escort him. You'll need a pass from the ticketing folks. You can bypass the normal TSA line but can't use, obviously, KCM. As long as you're with him, it's cool.