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11-13-2014 | 11:28 AM

#172201

TenYearsGone

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From: 7ERB

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Originally Posted by RetiredFTS

Does a day of long call count towards the 30 hours of rest in a 168 hour period? I am pretty sure the answer is no. I am currently in day 5 of 8 days of reserve. If the above answer is no, is it then true that I can not be assigned a trip that takes me beyond the 138 hours (168-30) of duty unless there's a 30 hour rest built into the trip?
Thanks for help.
FTS

Long call does not count.

You need to be informed when your 30hr rest is before it happens.

Scheduling needs to assign you a rest period either on a trip ahead of you or on day 6, 7, or 8.

TEN

11-13-2014 | 11:30 AM

#172202

Purple Drank

Straight QOL, homie

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From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator

That new "FDR at the gate" policy has slipped to 1 Dec.

Well, that initiative was certainly well-implemented.

11-13-2014 | 11:31 AM

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RetiredFTS

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From: 7ER Costar

Quote:

Originally Posted by TenYearsGone

Long call does not count.

You need to be informed when your 30hr rest is before it happens.

Scheduling needs to assign you a rest period either on a trip ahead of you or on day 6, 7, or 8.

TEN

Thanks TEN and Scoop.

11-13-2014 | 11:53 AM

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From: Road construction signholder

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Originally Posted by Smokey23

Somebody help me out here (SWA employee). Why is your management apparently so hot to cut profit-sharing? I would think if anything they would be wanting more profitability-based compensation, as it is (from their perspective) nicely self-regulating through the good times and the bad?

Because by definition profits are the property of the shareholders (read any web search about Microsoft trying a few years ago how to get rid of a $50 billion plus cash hoard--you will notice that "profit sharing to employees" was not one of their options). Any profit sharing that goes to employees is in actuality paid from the shareholders to the employees. Many shareholders don't mind that on a small scale, as it hopefully makes for happier employees that generate more profits even with the profit-sharing than they would have without the program.

However when profit sharing is $1 billion plus--who would have ever imagined it?--Wall Street gets uptight and the Board of Directors (who represent the shareholders) gets a lot of pressure put on them to reduce the profit sharing to employees so that the shareholders can get it all via dividend or stock buyback.

Not saying that is how it should be, but how it is.

11-13-2014 | 11:53 AM

#172205

NERD

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All 88A's out except ATL

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Originally Posted by Roadkill

Still no dec sched awards.

used to be able to backdoor it on 13th always, lately they barely make the contract limit time.

11-13-2014 | 11:54 AM

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hammer189

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Originally Posted by RetiredFTS

I believe u need 30 hrs rest AFTER 168 hrs of duty. Every 30 hrs or rest resets the 168 hr clock. It's somewhere in the notepads alpa published when this all started.

11-13-2014 | 11:58 AM

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RetiredFTS

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From: 7ER Costar

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Originally Posted by hammer189

I believe u need 30 hrs rest AFTER 168 hrs of duty. Every 30 hrs or rest resets the 168 hr clock. It's somewhere in the notepads alpa published when this all started.

I don't believe that is correct. That equals 7 days of work before a day off and I don't believe that was the intent of the rule.

11-13-2014 | 12:09 PM

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Cogf16

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From: VEOP Retired! 7ER A was last position

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

The used 757's were explained as replacements for aircraft that would need heavy checks. Since the 74 or so 757's that are planned to remain in the fleet will all get new interiors they stated it was cheaper to park some of ours and purchase used low cycle airframes before the interior mods. Sadly it's not planned as a gain in airframes.

If this is true I think it's great news. Status quo in terms of # of 757 airframes is good. Beats losing 40 or so in the next 3 years(which is the rough plan I think)

11-13-2014 | 12:33 PM

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Careful, Fixed news crowd can't handle those facts! No matter what, the recovery from W's wreck less economic disaster will never get proper credit. Just better to cloud the issues with Faux agendas.

Exactly! Like this Jonathan Gruber non-story that no one else is covering.

Gruber video #2: No, really, American voters are stupid; Update: Third video? « Hot Air

11-13-2014 | 12:34 PM

#172210

Flying Elvis

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From: Utah Chapter

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammer189

I believe u need 30 hrs rest AFTER 168 hrs of duty. Every 30 hrs or rest resets the 168 hr clock. It's somewhere in the notepads alpa published when this all started.

Not quite.

At any point at which you are beginning flight duty, you need to be able to look back and see that in the past 168 hours you have had 30hrs contiguous rest. If you start LCR at 0000 Monday morning, you are a pumpkin if you don't start duty before 2000 Saturday.

So if you're on LCR, you are dead to them at 0800 Saturday, or 1800 if you're on SCR.

Crew Sched has been very proactive with this for me when I've had longer blocks of reserve.