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Old 11-13-2014 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
That new "FDR at the gate" policy has slipped to 1 Dec.

Well, that initiative was certainly well-implemented.
Why are we doing this anyway? What's wrong with signing it in the cockpit? On a related note, is it just me or are we drifting towards checking, verifying and confirming EVERYTHING in the cockpit?!?!?!?!?!? My last 2 F/O's (one a new hire) asked me "how's this look" on a simple speed change in the FMS! And do we need to verify a runway extension?(it's not moving the jet!) Sure seems like we're getting overly "cautious" and slipping to a VERY rigid cockpit. S acronym's anyone
Old 11-13-2014 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cogf16
Why are we doing this anyway? What's wrong with signing it in the cockpit? On a related note, is it just me or are we drifting towards checking, verifying and confirming EVERYTHING in the cockpit?!?!?!?!?!? My last 2 F/O's (one a new hire) asked me "how's this look" on a simple speed change in the FMS! And do we need to verify a runway extension?(it's not moving the jet!) Sure seems like we're getting overly "cautious" and slipping to a VERY rigid cockpit. S acronym's anyone
Agree. Briefings are out of control as well. Tell me again why I need to brief the full ILS approach plate when we are going to be doing a visual?
Old 11-13-2014 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cogf16
Why are we doing this anyway? What's wrong with signing it in the cockpit? On a related note, is it just me or are we drifting towards checking, verifying and confirming EVERYTHING in the cockpit?!?!?!?!?!? My last 2 F/O's (one a new hire) asked me "how's this look" on a simple speed change in the FMS! And do we need to verify a runway extension?(it's not moving the jet!) Sure seems like we're getting overly "cautious" and slipping to a VERY rigid cockpit. S acronym's anyone
Would have agreed before my last trip. ATC asked us to do 310 on the descent, FO put 310 in the cruise alt line and executed. We started climbing to get to the vnav path. Nice job, Sluggo. And there was one last summer that fell in love with cruise altitude changes instead of just putting it into descent mode, so when they finally gave us descend via the RNAV arv into LGA, he executed "des direct" before I could stop him.

If we were all smart enough to quit making stupid mistakes like these, I would agree.
Old 11-13-2014 | 01:19 PM
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ASAPs are driving these changes.


Originally Posted by Dirtdiver
Would have agreed before my last trip. ATC asked us to do 310 on the descent, FO put 310 in the cruise alt line and executed. We started climbing to get to the vnav path. Nice job, Sluggo. And there was one last summer that fell in love with cruise altitude changes instead of just putting it into descent mode, so when they finally gave us descend via the RNAV arv into LGA, he executed "des direct" before I could stop him.

If we were all smart enough to quit making stupid mistakes like these, I would agree.
Old 11-13-2014 | 01:24 PM
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Lot's of data to support these changes. In the world before ASAPs and FOQA, unless there was a violation, no one but the crew knew about the f'ups. Between FOQA catching things/trends and guys feeling less threat to admit error, we are going to have a more safe airline. None of us like change, but if it saves one hull loss or violation it will be worth it.



Originally Posted by Cogf16
Why are we doing this anyway? What's wrong with signing it in the cockpit? On a related note, is it just me or are we drifting towards checking, verifying and confirming EVERYTHING in the cockpit?!?!?!?!?!? My last 2 F/O's (one a new hire) asked me "how's this look" on a simple speed change in the FMS! And do we need to verify a runway extension?(it's not moving the jet!) Sure seems like we're getting overly "cautious" and slipping to a VERY rigid cockpit. S acronym's anyone
Old 11-13-2014 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirtdiver
Would have agreed before my last trip. ATC asked us to do 310 on the descent, FO put 310 in the cruise alt line and executed. We started climbing to get to the vnav path. Nice job, Sluggo. And there was one last summer that fell in love with cruise altitude changes instead of just putting it into descent mode, so when they finally gave us descend via the RNAV arv into LGA, he executed "des direct" before I could stop him.

If we were all smart enough to quit making stupid mistakes like these, I would agree.
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Old 11-13-2014 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
Because by definition profits are the property of the shareholders (read any web search about Microsoft trying a few years ago how to get rid of a $50 billion plus cash hoard--you will notice that "profit sharing to employees" was not one of their options). Any profit sharing that goes to employees is in actuality paid from the shareholders to the employees. Many shareholders don't mind that on a small scale, as it hopefully makes for happier employees that generate more profits even with the profit-sharing than they would have without the program.

However when profit sharing is $1 billion plus--who would have ever imagined it?--Wall Street gets uptight and the Board of Directors (who represent the shareholders) gets a lot of pressure put on them to reduce the profit sharing to employees so that the shareholders can get it all via dividend or stock buyback.

Not saying that is how it should be, but how it is.
Well, I can solve the BOD's problem. If they have a problem with large profit sharing payouts and can't stand Wall Street's pressure, they need to prepare themselves to write some pretty massive paychecks. They aren't going to get their cake and eat it, too. Let's start with 25% and go from there. I can think of all kinds of creative ways to help them with their dilemma.
Old 11-13-2014 | 02:08 PM
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Anyone on here have any info on buying gold bars? I figure since everyone thinks I'm filthy rich I just as well have a few gold bars in the safe to throw around during parties.
Old 11-13-2014 | 02:11 PM
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Hey I agree. But if we "monetized" this profit sharing with even significant pay raises there would be some serious objections

But you know what, maybe we can just change the system and prove to Wall Street that maybe this way that DAL is pursuing is better than the status quo and maybe others could emulate it, rather than get rid of it.
Old 11-13-2014 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
No. We were delayed 2 hours on Tuesday because a crew manned up and then it was found out that the FO did not have his 30 hour break.

Not sure who eventually figured it out but some lucky dude got a GS.
Going to SEA? The guy who got the GS was a friend of mine. They original crew got an ACARS after pushback saying don't go, is what he said.
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