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Oberon's half baked plan to improve the green slip process...
The fact that the only method of communication for green slips is phone and they have to give you ten minutes to respond and you don't even get the chance to say "no" is antiquated. At the very least we should get the option of text message notifications. They could send a text with the trip and you could reply "accept", "decline", or nothing and they would move on in ten minutes. This would be much more efficient.
In the case of less than two hour trips they could send a mass text to everyone who has a GS in and is legal. The first to reply gets the trip. Admittedly, this could be problematic in a few ways; 1) calls now go out in seniority order for short notice GS but they wouldn't with text messages, 2) this would only work if text message notifications were required and I'm sure there are a lot of "get off my lawn" types who don't understand new-fangled technology
, 3) if they put a 45 minute report time on it but you couldn't get there for two hours you would need to negotiate this with scheduling which would require a phone call or at least a text message conversation. I guess they could just substitute text messages with phone calls and use the same process they do now...like I said "half baked idea".
That said, text messages are old technology. A real win-win solution is a comprehensive app that allows notifications for green slips and open time as well as some form of communication with scheduling. I'm not sure exactly what it would look like but a system where pilots could see open trips easily and passively would benefit the company and the pilots.
The fact that the only method of communication for green slips is phone and they have to give you ten minutes to respond and you don't even get the chance to say "no" is antiquated. At the very least we should get the option of text message notifications. They could send a text with the trip and you could reply "accept", "decline", or nothing and they would move on in ten minutes. This would be much more efficient.
In the case of less than two hour trips they could send a mass text to everyone who has a GS in and is legal. The first to reply gets the trip. Admittedly, this could be problematic in a few ways; 1) calls now go out in seniority order for short notice GS but they wouldn't with text messages, 2) this would only work if text message notifications were required and I'm sure there are a lot of "get off my lawn" types who don't understand new-fangled technology
, 3) if they put a 45 minute report time on it but you couldn't get there for two hours you would need to negotiate this with scheduling which would require a phone call or at least a text message conversation. I guess they could just substitute text messages with phone calls and use the same process they do now...like I said "half baked idea".That said, text messages are old technology. A real win-win solution is a comprehensive app that allows notifications for green slips and open time as well as some form of communication with scheduling. I'm not sure exactly what it would look like but a system where pilots could see open trips easily and passively would benefit the company and the pilots.
...as far as $4,000 beers, it's none of your business how a co-worker values his time. He might have a good reason for going to work instead of being at home or he might not. It's no one's business but his.
Oberon's half baked plan to improve the green slip process...
The fact that the only method of communication for green slips is phone and they have to give you ten minutes to respond and you don't even get the chance to say "no" is antiquated. At the very least we should get the option of text message notifications. They could send a text with the trip and you could reply "accept", "decline", or nothing and they would move on in ten minutes. This would be much more efficient.
In the case of less than two hour trips they could send a mass text to everyone who has a GS in and is legal. The first to reply gets the trip. Admittedly, this could be problematic in a few ways; 1) calls now go out in seniority order for short notice GS but they wouldn't with text messages, 2) this would only work if text message notifications were required and I'm sure there are a lot of "get off my lawn" types who don't understand new-fangled technology
, 3) if they put a 45 minute report time on it but you couldn't get there for two hours you would need to negotiate this with scheduling which would require a phone call or at least a text message conversation. I guess they could just substitute text messages with phone calls and use the same process they do now...like I said "half baked idea".
That said, text messages are old technology. A real win-win solution is a comprehensive app that allows notifications for green slips and open time as well as some form of communication with scheduling. I'm not sure exactly what it would look like but a system where pilots could see open trips easily and passively would benefit the company and the pilots.
The fact that the only method of communication for green slips is phone and they have to give you ten minutes to respond and you don't even get the chance to say "no" is antiquated. At the very least we should get the option of text message notifications. They could send a text with the trip and you could reply "accept", "decline", or nothing and they would move on in ten minutes. This would be much more efficient.
In the case of less than two hour trips they could send a mass text to everyone who has a GS in and is legal. The first to reply gets the trip. Admittedly, this could be problematic in a few ways; 1) calls now go out in seniority order for short notice GS but they wouldn't with text messages, 2) this would only work if text message notifications were required and I'm sure there are a lot of "get off my lawn" types who don't understand new-fangled technology
, 3) if they put a 45 minute report time on it but you couldn't get there for two hours you would need to negotiate this with scheduling which would require a phone call or at least a text message conversation. I guess they could just substitute text messages with phone calls and use the same process they do now...like I said "half baked idea".That said, text messages are old technology. A real win-win solution is a comprehensive app that allows notifications for green slips and open time as well as some form of communication with scheduling. I'm not sure exactly what it would look like but a system where pilots could see open trips easily and passively would benefit the company and the pilots.
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Because not everyone pays for texts. We're pilots after all...
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Oberon's half baked plan to improve the green slip process...
The fact that the only method of communication for green slips is phone and they have to give you ten minutes to respond and you don't even get the chance to say "no" is antiquated. At the very least we should get the option of text message notifications. They could send a text with the trip and you could reply "accept", "decline", or nothing and they would move on in ten minutes. This would be much more efficient.
In the case of less than two hour trips they could send a mass text to everyone who has a GS in and is legal.
The fact that the only method of communication for green slips is phone and they have to give you ten minutes to respond and you don't even get the chance to say "no" is antiquated. At the very least we should get the option of text message notifications. They could send a text with the trip and you could reply "accept", "decline", or nothing and they would move on in ten minutes. This would be much more efficient.
In the case of less than two hour trips they could send a mass text to everyone who has a GS in and is legal.
Your idea of sending a "first come first served" text message to everyone who is legal for and wants a green slip is asinine. What's the point of seniority, then? Let's just draw straws for the good trips. I guess it's a bonanza for you.
Remember when several robocalls went out to folks in rest a few months back? I don't trust Delta IT to implement anything more complicated than a cup of coffee.
I'm happy with the onus of positive contact on the company. The friction in the system is the company's cost of doing business-- not ours.
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I've averaged a greenie a month in 2014. They probably averaged $4k per. Yesterday I celebrated 30 yrs of marriage. (Yep, same woman.) And she's way cool with the green slips. You see, she knows green slips don't flow hot and heavy all the time. Putting away some grain in the good years, means you eat in the lean years.
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
In some categories we are short enough that a guy can be picky about his Green Slip flying. I know some who are only interested in 2+ days, or certain cities.
But that's good advice. Beats trying to log on to icrew on the phone while driving.
They're like lincoln logs but so much better.
When I was EWR based many years ago I remember the city of Newark getting a cut (I was a Gawga resident then) and I couldn't get it back on taxes. Maybe something changed but this was back in 2004-2005, so hopefully it's gone away.
NY can't take a cut if your living somewhere else. We fall under federal law that states if you are a transportation worker and do not do more then 50% of your work in one state then state tax obligations fall to your state of residence. I have flown 15 years out of NY and they have never made even a attempt to tax me.
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