Airline Pilot Central Forums - Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

ACL: What do you mean by this? Because I agree with Buzzpat. I really don't understand our logic with LAX. I live in Denver, but have family in LA and would like to eventually be based there, but the way we keep cutting back and "code sharing" with Alaska and allowing other airlines to move in there (Virgin America) and have a presence has me confused. I mean, I get it, Virgin is struggling, but you honestly cant tell me that we cant compete with Southwest and Alaska AND feed our own passengers the way that Virgin America is. Like I said, I just dont get it. I fear a DFW part 2 coming with LAX because of our company's lack of motivation to grow it.

DAL does not want to dilute the current market with us moving in and competing in the North/South routes. The current thinking as I see it is to have AS feed us out of LAX, PDX, and SEA to our international flying. I do see us eventually reclaiming some if not all of these markets, but that would require a capital expenditure that DAL appears not to be comfortable making currently.

What I see is more SA/LA flying performed by us fed by the code share, at least in the near term. As we rationalize our new route structure I would suspect that LAX has long term plans. I see some of that framework being developed now, but this is a five to ten year plan.

Express pilot

11-12-2009 04:59 PM

10 MD90's done deal. Great source.

acl65pilot

11-12-2009 05:00 PM

I do not fear AMR, I fear WN....

buzzpat

11-12-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 711269)

I agree, I was just using his words. Personally, I think that the company may need to get that deal yanked out from underneath them to realize the dangers of code shares.

50 million is two RJ's.....or one 73N

From my perspective, code shares mean less Delta pilot's flying. $50 million may be two RJs or one 73N, but $0 = $0. Alaska gets our good routes, we share the trip responsibility, but their pilots fly the rotation. I can certainly see how that benefits DAL as a corporate entity, but it does not serve DAL pilots. Its outsourcing plain and simple. Alaska's pilots gain, we lose, and we're supposed to blindly accept it?

I can understand, to a degree, us code sharing with international carriers because of the treaties, foreign business, etc., but us code sharing with a US competitor? Makes no sense to me. But, then again, I'm a dumbass pilot. OK, I'll go back and color now.

johnso29

11-12-2009 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 711273)

Any insight as to what flying the M88/90 will be doing in MSP? Will it be longer haul west coast cities along with FL and Mexico stuff in the winter (assuming they will have the 160 seats in the -90's) or do you think it will be more of the DFW, DTW, NYC, BOS, ATL, stuff? I am sure there will be some mix but any insight to the trips would be helpful.

Thanks,

I would think some of the 319/320 West Coast flying will be taken over by the MD90. That will allow DAL to utilize the bus in SLC.

iceman49

11-12-2009 05:19 PM

Sorry, but I just don't see this wholesale movement of the 88 and 320s, it appears that everyone thinks nothing is going to change in SLC. SLC is a distribution point for everything CO and west..MSP for everything midwest and going east. Probably not getting it as usual.

1234	11-12-2009 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 711277)

The point of the 90 in MSP is it has the ability to his both coasts from there where it cannot do that in SLC.

I know, I am just trying to get a better gauge on the flying the two different fleets will be doing. The bus already does both coasts and a lot of in between. Just wondering if the maddog will be primarily doing the in-between, or a combo of both.

Thanks,

DAL 88 Driver

11-12-2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by upndsky (Post 711148)

S Dickson (Senior VP Flight Ops) and G Wilbur (Crew planning) came by the crew room in ATL today. I won't go into what was said since none of it was earth shattering and mirrors what has been said here. There were a few things of note I found interesting, a couple which pertain to things discussed on the last few pages of this thread:

Just to set the record straight - its Barry Wilbur. :)

Scoop

Oh... Wilbur! I think he knows this guy: YouTube - Mister Ed Intro
(It's not Bastian, is it?) :D

dragon

11-12-2009 05:27 PM

Interview with RA on NYT

Saw this abridged version of the interview and thought it had some interesting points:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/26/bu...r=yahoofinance

One I liked was:

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Q. What about time management?

A. Only touch paper once. No. 2, always have your homework done. No. 3, return your calls very promptly. No. 4, stick to your schedule. I keep my watch about 10 minutes ahead. It’s important to run on time, particularly at an airline. And use your time wisely. And then, once a month, take the rest of the calendar year, or the next six months and re-review how you are using your time and reprioritize what you’re doing.

acl65pilot

11-12-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 711286)

I am not disagreeing with you, I am stating what the company states.

IMHO, it is a mistake. We need to either do it, or acquire the company doing that flying for us. It needs to be in house for a myriad of reasons.

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