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Yes. I just thought it interesting that he specifically used the term "growth" aircraft. I may have missed the post but I thought the speculation on here was that they could have been replacement planes for the -30s and -40s being pulled.

smitty145

11-12-2009 01:28 PM

How many airplanes do they need to "grow" for new 70+ seaters to replace the -30s and -40s?

upndsky

11-12-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 711159)

4) I was told very recently and hinted at it last night. 1700 is a school house rumor and one that has been floated on some levels. They will not publicly comment on hiring, as that is a legal tightrope that I will not discuss on here.

My guess is that they are probably looking at it and will pull the trigger on it after the bid if it is needed. I think that guys of furlough bypass may eat all of it up FWIW. Going in to late next year and 2011, we will need bodies no doubt. Do not let anyone fool you. When they are saying 100 short, they are being coy.......

Not doubting that's the rumor. I'm just saying that nothing was said or hinted at that made me go, "Hmmm...." Like you, I try to read between the lines and connect the dots.

Scoop

11-12-2009 01:38 PM

[quote=upndsky;711148]S Dickson (Senior VP Flight Ops) and G Wilbur (Crew planning) came by the crew room in ATL today. I won't go into what was said since none of it was earth shattering and mirrors what has been said here. There were a few things of note I found interesting, a couple which pertain to things discussed on the last few pages of this thread:

Just to set the record straight - its Barry Wilbur. :)

Scoop

upndsky

11-12-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 711160)

I think we will have Purple tails here sooner rather than later.

Huh, are we buying FedEx next?:D

RockyBoy

11-12-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 711159)

3)Do not let anyone fool you. When they are saying 100 short, they are being coy.......

Exactly. When they started hiring in 2007, I was told about a dozen times they were "planning" on about 250-300 pilots, ended up being about 700. So if they are saying 100, they really mean more like 300. I still don't understand how being coy is a legal issue. I understand the Wall Street issues of putting out a picture of growth and not meeting the targets, but still don't know how it is a legal issue.

upndsky

11-12-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 711165)

BTW, did anyone have big enough coins to ask about that island in the Pacific......?

Someone did but I had gone to the back of the room to talk to somone and couldn't hear the answer very well. It sounded like they were non-committal and danced around the question a little, but again, I had a hard time hearing what was said.

Maybe someone else will pipe in.

acl65pilot

11-12-2009 01:58 PM

It is a legal issue because there are a lot of people that were not hired, failed the interview, hired, but not put in a class, in the NWA pool, may go to class after CPS and Mesaba pilots, etc. In a nut shell announcing hiring or thinking of hiring is a legal tightrope. Especially shortly after SOC. As I have been told many times, "The longer the time between the end and start of hiring cycles, the better." It cuts down on the legal issues that may come in to play.

acl65pilot

11-12-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by upndsky (Post 711179)

I call that funky math. Growth for less than a year. They are replacing the 9-30's but the 9-30's will not go to retirement for a little bit. I will also add that these jets are not slated to hit the flight line for summer 2010 sked.

acl65pilot

11-12-2009 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by upndsky (Post 711186)

Huh, are we buying FedEx next?:D

That is a purple bullet. A purple tail is a NWA Red Tail and a DAL Blue tail after the merger. Purple. :rolleyes:

I know you know, but I explained it anyway for some that still did not get it.

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