Originally Posted by IAV84DAL (Post 1822575)

Really? Sarcasm? I've laid out my "manifesto" in broad strokes. Yes, I'd like to see C2K restored as a starter toward "Restoring the Profession". If we're in fact "Takin' it Back" it means presenting a pay scale that demands recognition of our skillset. PS is not part of that recognition. I believe that offering PS as a trade is a losing strategy because it plays into managements (and the NMB) position that PS is compensation. The idea that PS will never be as big a bargaining chip as it will be next week is real. If we squander that leverage we might as well lay the bet on if that's the case. And I've said that too in my letter to my reps.

As for the annuity, I know we're not getting a pension like C2K but I'd like to read our NC obtained a Annuity for EVERY pilot which might go so far as an additional 20K a year in retirement for a 30 year career. Maybe it runs out if you live to 90. So what? Its a good idea and it benefits ALL of us instead of just a few. I don't need it but it helps those who do.

PS is a big shiny box and its got an allure I give you that. But its a concession. Pure and simple. A concession we made to prevent a worse outcome. We need to fix that pronto.

Originally Posted by IAV84DAL (Post 1822630)

What's truly embarrassing Carl is the lengths you'll go to discrediting dissent and validating support for what has become a very profitable windfall for yourself.

Originally Posted by IAV84DAL (Post 1822630)

Its temporary, but whatever, right Carl?

Originally Posted by IAV84DAL (Post 1822630)

Its good for you.

Originally Posted by IAV84DAL (Post 1822630)

And someday as the cyclical nature of our profession proves, when PS is again ZERO you'll have yours and rally the empty handed troops with anti ALPA slogans and sentiment.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1822634)

Guess what yall, I got good news.

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The 717 is now the face of Delta Air Lines.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1822643)

You're WRONG!

Beyonce should be the new face of Delta Air Lines!

The 717 doesn't respect art.

Everybody KNOWS she's got more talent than the 717!

Now give her the tablet, just give it to her! :eek:

Originally Posted by IAV84DAL (Post 1822630)

What's truly embarrassing Carl is the lengths you'll go to discrediting dissent and validating support for what has become a very profitable windfall for yourself. Its temporary, but whatever, right Carl? Its good for you. And someday as the cyclical nature of our profession proves, when PS is again ZERO you'll have yours and rally the empty handed troops with anti ALPA slogans and sentiment.

Awesome.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1822608)

I did try to warn you shoelu! :D

Carl

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1822602)

I assume you meant non-starter?

Regardless, the salient point here is that prior to profit sharing being reduced in C2012, there were NO indications that it was on the company's desire list. Furthermore, our reps specifically directed the NC to not touch profit sharing. The NC did it anyway. That's the rub.

Carl