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GogglesPisano 02-12-2015 07:52 AM

I was able to get on via the separate iCrew page, from there to Flt Ops. Regular paycheck is there, but not PS.

As far as GS vs WS, the reason guys fill up with WS's is that they are junior and they realize they will never see a GS, so they fill up at straight pay and take away "your" GS. The temerity!

Herkflyr 02-12-2015 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1824242)
I was able to get on via the separate iCrew page, from there to Flt Ops. Regular paycheck is there, but not PS.

As far as GS vs WS, the reason guys fill up with WS's is that they are junior and they realize they will never see a GS, so they fill up at straight pay and take away "your" GS. The temerity!

That is a compelling reason to have a system where you just put in WS and all flying over certain thresholds pays a premium. You could even have it such that guys projected above 80 (for example) go after guys projected under.

That way you don't have the "do I put in for a GS or WS?" decision, where the pilot has to make a best guess based on a lot of factors, and after the fact never has to say "had I but known that junior guys were getting GSs then I wouldn't have put in a WS"... or vice versa.

I'm not even sure that I am in favor of such a system. All pay systems have their pros and cons. But this is a discussion that will no doubt continue.

GogglesPisano 02-12-2015 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 1824260)
That is a compelling reason to have a system where you just put in WS and all flying over certain thresholds pays a premium. You could even have it such that guys projected above 80 (for example) go after guys projected under.

That way you don't have the "do I put in for a GS or WS?" decision, where the pilot has to make a best guess based on a lot of factors, and after the fact never has to say "had I but known that junior guys were getting GSs then I wouldn't have put in a WS"... or vice versa.

I'm not even sure that I am in favor of such a system. All pay systems have their pros and cons. But this is a discussion that will no doubt continue.

That seems more fair. But a been-counter would prefer the current system vs paying everyone 1.5x over 80. Plus, there has to be a carrot for picking up a trip on short notice.

NERD 02-12-2015 08:54 AM

I must be missing something. After filling up my 401K I had about $5700 left over. The deposit shows a little more than $2100. More than 60% taken out.



Originally Posted by ATL7ER (Post 1824171)
25% Fed tax
Highest marginal state tax rate (GA = 6%)
FICA = 7.65%
ALPA = 1.9%
DPMA

For me = PS Gross - 401k - 40.55% - DPMA dues


trico 02-12-2015 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1824008)
I'm going to create an alter for this website. I'll then come in and post as that person and nobody will know its me.

But I need a name. Any ideas?

Alter Boy?

ATL7ER 02-12-2015 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1824276)
I must be missing something. After filling up my 401K I had about $5700 left over. The deposit shows a little more than $2100. More than 60% taken out.

The $$ you put in your 401k do not escape:

FICA at 7.65%
ALPA at 1.9%
DPMA

NERD 02-12-2015 09:30 AM

That makes mo sense.



Originally Posted by ATL7ER (Post 1824286)
The $$ you put in your 401k do not escape:

FICA at 7.65%
ALPA at 1.9%
DPMA


full of luv 02-12-2015 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1824295)
That makes mo sense.

He's saying that although the money you put in a 401K is fed tax deferred, it is still subject to SS, medicare taxes and DPMA contributions in the month it was earned.

full of luv 02-12-2015 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 1824260)
That is a compelling reason to have a system where you just put in WS and all flying over certain thresholds pays a premium. You could even have it such that guys projected above 80 (for example) go after guys projected under.

That way you don't have the "do I put in for a GS or WS?" decision, where the pilot has to make a best guess based on a lot of factors, and after the fact never has to say "had I but known that junior guys were getting GSs then I wouldn't have put in a WS"... or vice versa.

I'm not even sure that I am in favor of such a system. All pay systems have their pros and cons. But this is a discussion that will no doubt continue.

Well you could have a true bid system in that you can offer to work that trip for 1.25 x or 1.5 x pay etc. That would be a true capitalistic system.

forgot to bid 02-12-2015 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by Mem9guy (Post 1824100)
I know I said I was leaving, but...
Just wanted to let you know that the profit sharing amounts can be "back doored" in away. Tomorrow's regular paychecks are on Deltanet and there is an amount under the YTD column already for the profit sharing.


Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 1824101)
you can see how much your ps is. only our first three checks of the year are up but i noticed that the totals in the check details don't ad up with just the three checks that are available to view. the diff is the ps.

he beat me to it

plus the gross is under profitsharing

You two deserve the Internet equivalent to a free beer.


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