Wow. That's a big deal. And a lot of pilots

source? filler

Schoolhouse rumblings...

That is good news. Is that an official announcement?

I see. So your reading comprehension and blind dogma to do all you can to obtain "any" contact before July so you can start working on your final handful of years here wasn't a factor on your response.

Instead, you admit to game playing?

So transparent you are.

*sigh* OK let me try again. What in your mind is so substandard that it wouldn't pass group's muster?

News Flash.

You're demographic is actually in the minority.

We have more new hires and pilots hired pre late 98 (prior furloughed) on the list than 'guys hoping enough other pilots sign their special parting gift hanging in the lounges so they don't look insignificant or like a tool' on our SLI.

Do the math. Numbers all verifiable on the flight ops web site. I'm going with game theory science that an agreement that does not have bottom or top end scope provisions that protect or begin to increase our share of the flying, will kill a TA just as quick as buying our raises with profit sharing.

Steady hiring, that only accelerated with time since '07, has watered down the 'wide body mafia' considerably. Basically, your likely along for the ride until the end.

How much of your picture is going to have ink on the matting?Positive ink, negative doesn't count. Maybe you can fill it out a fraction by hanging it on the fourth floor in the rookery where the penguins live. You know, birds with wings for no apparent reason.

Easy. The top two?

1.) Third party verification and evaluation in relation to the use of sick leave.

2.) Touching profit sharing inside of section six.

Both are mortally toxic.

3.) Is highly detrimental to any TA. Wrapping a JV grievance settlement up in the contract.

Negative... still just a "rumot."

I think you put a very fine point on this actually.

Profit sharing removes the TVM argument right now.

Who cares about dragging out negotiations. Status quo doesn't suck and it sucks far far less than concessions during a time of significant profitability.

I don't have any rumor specifics except for some of the hot potatoes that I read here. I have a hard time believing them because they are so ridiculous.

If they are true, then how could anyone possibly cheerlead them?

There is absolutely no acceptable reason for concessions in this environment and no reason to get a speedy substandard TA.