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ATL7ER 02-12-2015 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1824104)
If you have an Iphone screenshot everything when you acknowledge it so you have documentation.

Yes, I do have screenshots of it, however the point is that PWA 23.Q.13 allows them to remove/change a GS, even one that you have acknowledged, up to 2 hours prior to report without owing the pilot any guarantee $. I had no idea that they could do that. The only potential compensation is for any trip that you would have been awarded but were not due to the GS being on your line that was then later removed.

orvil 02-12-2015 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 1824101)
you can see how much your ps is. only our first three checks of the year are up but i noticed that the totals in the check details don't ad up with just the three checks that are available to view. the diff is the ps.

he beat me to it

plus the gross is under profitsharing

Checked my checking account this morning. You will be pleasantly surprised. It was more than I was anticipating.

Imapilot2 02-12-2015 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by ATL7ER (Post 1824111)
Yes, I do have screenshots of it, however the point is that PWA 23.Q.13 allows them to remove/change a GS, even one that you have acknowledged, up to 2 hours prior to report without owing the pilot any guarantee $. I had no idea that they could do that. The only potential compensation is for any trip that you would have been awarded but were not due to the GS being on your line that was then later removed.


we need this to change in this contract. we acknowledge the green then we are responsible. we get babysitters, drive, flight commute......acknowledged=paid for both line and reserves. IMO

Check Essential 02-12-2015 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1824078)
Did you in fact have a white slip in that met the criteria for the trip? If not I would call DALPA and ask them to look into this. Sounds like perhaps another pilot called in after they gave you the trip and wanted it on a WS. That's not allowed and the trip remains yours. The contract guys at DALPA can view the exact history and tell you what happened. There is no way the computer showed you for a GS if you had a WS in.

I agree with sailing.
There's a piece missing from this puzzle.

cni187 02-12-2015 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 1824117)
we need this to change in this contract. we acknowledge the green then we are responsible. we get babysitters, drive, flight commute......acknowledged=paid for both line and reserves. IMO

All the north guys I fly with make sense. A min day for everything and 1.5 for anything flown over 75 hours. Period.

Check Essential 02-12-2015 05:43 AM

DeltaNet not working?
I think it might be overloaded with everyone trying to see their profit sharing.

scambo1 02-12-2015 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1824127)
DeltaNet not working?
I think it might be overloaded with everyone trying to see their profit sharing.

I was booted 5 times then I quit.

sailingfun 02-12-2015 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by ATL7ER (Post 1824111)
Yes, I do have screenshots of it, however the point is that PWA 23.Q.13 allows them to remove/change a GS, even one that you have acknowledged, up to 2 hours prior to report without owing the pilot any guarantee $. I had no idea that they could do that. The only potential compensation is for any trip that you would have been awarded but were not due to the GS being on your line that was then later removed.

That's not quite correct. They can remove only if a error was made in the coverage process. They can't remove it because a better option became available. Again contact DALPA.

ATL7ER 02-12-2015 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1824118)
I agree with sailing.
There's a piece missing from this puzzle.

Yeah, there is a little more to the story....I did have a WS in that would/should have been triggered by this trip. However, scheds called me and awarded it as a GS which I promptly acknowledged. Yes, I was scratching my head at the time wondering why they gave me a GS for a trip that matched a WS I had in.

Scheduler made a mistake (2 other guys at the same time had the same deal happen....GS's later changed to WS...don't know if they acknowledged or not), however once I acknowledged the trip as awarded (GS) I thought it (or the $$) were mine. I have no obligation to acknowledge a WS award for next day...they have the right to remove the WS from my line after 10 minutes and move on.

IF I had kept my phone nearby after accepting the GS I would have seen the voicemail and would have called to ask what happened to the acknowledged GS. They would have explained that it was a mistake and that PWA 23.Q.13 gives them the right to take it back. I would have then accepted it as a WS. So, in a way it's interesting...They had the right to change their mistake, and I had no obligation to be reachable after acknowledging the GS. I missed their "correction" phone call and spent the next hour thinking I had a GS for today....which caused me to miss out on even the WS.

My takeaway: I now know any awarded and acknowledged GS can be taken away without pay up until 2 hours prior to report so I'll make sure I don't miss their phone calls from the time I acknowledge it until 2 hours prior.

I agree with Imapilot.....once we acknowledge an awarded trip the pay for that trip should be ours even if they remove it.

Purple Drank 02-12-2015 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by 80BuzzenFTBz (Post 1824031)
Why would anyone need another name? That would be really lame.


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