They are mostly talking about DCI flights and making sure the right pilot gets boarded. If it's mainline just call and list. Takes 2 minutes.

Thanks. Sorry if I took you the wrong way.

I wont even take one for the team with the above. Eeeeewww Puke:eek:

TEN

Thanks for clearing that up, when I first read it, I couldn't understand what they were talking about with 'listing at the gate more than two hours early.' I'm guessing that if you want to jumpseat on a DCI, it goes by time of listing (for a mainline pilot)?

We have had DCI pilots list for a jumpseat 5 hours in advance, then go fly his/her last turn. I had this happen once on a Pinnacle flight. I didn't make a big deal about it because the kid flew for Pinnacle so he was ahead of me anyway. I did witness this first hand though. This was about 6 years ago.

The poorly written Vectors directive wasn't specific enough. I assumed they were referring to checking in with the gate agent (even though it said "list") more than 2 hours early? We can "list" any time after the window opens. That's why this didn't make any sense. You're saying this only refers to DCI flights?

At any rate, my main beef is that ALPA is chastising pilots for "breaking [a] rule" in the Gate Agent Knowledge Manual. Since when did we have to start complying with that? What's next, compliance with the Red Book?

I'm still confused. Is the sole "problem" being addressed related to listing on DCI flights? Does this have anything at all to do with mainline flights? Thanks!

There's always been a disconnect at DAL between what pilots believe to be policy and what gate agents believe to be policy. We're on the same page most of the time but I've had to educate/explain on several occasions.

And, yes, the Red Book disconnect is real also. Much less than the gate agents, however. The 73 coat closet is a perfect example.

I'm not familiar with that. What's that about?

Most often, there's not enough room in the 73 cockpit to put both pilot bags in the tiny bag space. Especially when guys are packing for a 4 day trip. I defer to the CA and put mine in the FC coat closet (on the -800), the -900 is further back and a pain in the ass.

Many FAs take offense at a pilot putting their bag into the FC coat closet. I always (or try to) make sure they understand that there's not enough room in the cockpit. It's actually in the Red Book (for the 73) but most of them have no clue.