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80ktsClamp 02-22-2015 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 1829646)
I don't understand that claim. After C2012, how would you plot the trajectory of DPA? If C2012 was as unpopular as you infer, wouldn't it have gotten stronger?

In all likelihood, C2015 will be another opportunity for some pilots here to confirm that their criteria for an acceptable contract is not shared by most of their peers.

You have a very short memory it seems. Support for DPA rocketed up after C2012 was announced (as well as the process). It was only Caplinger's extreme immaturity shortly thereafter that culled the trajectory.

TheManager 02-22-2015 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1829748)
You have a very short memory it seems. Support for DPA rocketed up after C2012 was announced (as well as the process). It was only Caplinger's extreme immaturity shortly thereafter that culled the trajectory.

Watch.


If the NC delivers a still born TA and it is subsequently crammed down at the MEC meeting and passed on to us with a heavy dose of, wink-wink, "you'll never see the 3-3" sales and FUD, then watch out.

DPA will never rise, but we will see the rise of the next organization that will challenge DALPA for the leadership of the pilots.

And this time, it will have adult supervision and an organized structure. Their message? That will be easy after the still birth, if there is one again. Dalpa will be giving it to them on a silver platter.

Mesabah 02-22-2015 10:39 AM

What's the over/under on the IAM?

hitimefurl 02-22-2015 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1829548)
My posts on this topic have nothing to do DPA's life or relevance. My posts are to simply show the financials from ALPA's recently released 2013 tax forms. It gives you a window into our union's financial condition. Nothing more.

Carl


Roadkill 02-22-2015 01:07 PM

The Coming U.S. Pilot Shortage Is Real ? FlightAware

Good responses to this article... I clicked it because it's tagline read, "With upward of 20,000 cockpit seats expected to open up at U.S. airlines over the next seven years due to FAA-mandated age-65 retirements,"
which seemed to me to be an opening attempt to increase the age 65 retirement again--and them's FIGHTING WORDS!

However, there was a total pile-on of poor pilots who quit the airline gig to be able to support their families in other jobs. Interesting to read the comments at the end from pilots.

Karnak 02-22-2015 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1829748)
You have a very short memory it seems. Support for DPA rocketed up after C2012 was announced (as well as the process).

Do you have any data to support that?

Had any of their claims or predictions been accurate since their inception, we'd have had a representation election by now.

forgot to bid 02-22-2015 02:58 PM

I got outed today as FTB :D


It was well done Captain C. :D

scambo1 02-22-2015 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1829909)
I got outed today as FTB :D


It was well done Captain C. :D

Lies!

I still haven't met the mighty FTB despite living in his basement.

newKnow 02-22-2015 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1829922)
Lies!

I still haven't met the mighty FTB despite living in his basement.

All I know is that he's tall. :)

80ktsClamp 02-22-2015 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 1829900)
Do you have any data to support that?

Had any of their claims or predictions been accurate since their inception, we'd have had a representation election by now.

Not on hand, but their cards on file jumped by a couple thousand in short order during the C2012 process.

Your second statement is accurate. ALPA (in particular RH, RW, and BH) has been by far the biggest reason people go running to the DPA. DPA, particularly Caplinger, conversely have given people plenty of reason to give up on them. Neither is something either should be proud of.


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