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GunshipGuy 03-04-2015 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 1836641)
The Force is strong with this one. Be careful or PD will make some veiled threat about knowing this or that check airman. He likes picking on guys he thinks won't fight back because they're on probation.

I think PD could say it's a beautiful day today and his detractors would still find incentive to come at him with personal attacks.

Oh, and did someone say underboob?

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PilotFrog 03-04-2015 06:30 AM

steatopygia


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DogWhisperer 03-04-2015 06:41 AM

The goodwill shown from pilots to one of their own has been heartwarming...proud to say that I am a member of this group of air minded souls...DW

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/y...psgl4iq48h.jpg

Doug Masters 03-04-2015 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by DogWhisperer (Post 1836662)
The goodwill shown from pilots to one of their own has been heartwarming...proud to say that I am a member of this group of air minded souls...DW

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/y...psgl4iq48h.jpg


Best one yet DW. Well done!

forgot to bid 03-04-2015 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 1836636)
Yes that was my concern. Hypothetically I could be awarded ATL717B and they have until Jan '16 to convert me. Somebody junior to me could be awarded ATL717B on a subsequent AE and (to my understanding) it would be legal for them to be assigned to ATL before me since the company would have to convert them within 6 months. I called programming and asked about this possibility and was told that this was highly unlikely. As you pointed out, those who don't need training are typically converted quickly. The sticking point could be required NYC vs. ATL manning. The real takeaway I got was not even programming could give definitive answers. Until they see how the bid unfolds, they really have no idea on timetable of moves.

If I can find that article the company put out about CR and conversions I'll post it. It was illuminating but not stetopygia, but nothing is.

Anyways, they have to see it unfold and probably won't make promises. I remember when I went from NYC7ERB to ATL7ERB, the AE had like 10 openings max. I think there were 70ish pilots put into ATL7ERB when the bid was done. I can't remember exactly what it was but it was a big bid and the numbers were way off.

Hence the bid what you want and want what you bid and don't overthink it.

But I do feel as if they do their best to staff for the summer and lock you into that and maybe a bunch of ATL717Bs bid off and they need you. Unless you really wanted SEA. At least if that was the case you could go NYC717B -> ATL717B and wait til your 717 seat lock is up and put in for SEA.

When I went to ATL88B to ATL717B they posted conversion dates in the summer of 2013 for many of us and then took those back and put us in September and after. Some were to have gone to training in Nov and had Nov and probably 4-6 months after off, they took that back and said stay busy on the 88 for 4-6 months. That was a bummer.

But just know that conversion/training list is not contractually binding at all, it's more of a best estimate.

I've also known plenty of guys on this forum who were within a couple of days of training on a plane and held something else and got out of it. But then again, I've heard of people who weren't allowed out and went through 2/3 of their training on the new airplane.

DogWhisperer 03-04-2015 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1836667)
Best one yet DW. Well done!


MikeF16 03-04-2015 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1836678)
If I can find that article the company put out about CR and conversions I'll post it. It was illuminating but not stetopygia, but nothing is.

Anyways, they have to see it unfold and probably won't make promises. I remember when I went from NYC7ERB to ATL7ERB, the AE had like 10 openings max. I think there were 70ish pilots put into ATL7ERB when the bid was done. I can't remember exactly what it was but it was a big bid and the numbers were way off.

Hence the bid what you want and want what you bid and don't overthink it.

But I do feel as if they do their best to staff for the summer and lock you into that and maybe a bunch of ATL717Bs bid off and they need you. Unless you really wanted SEA. At least if that was the case you could go NYC717B -> ATL717B and wait til your 717 seat lock is up and put in for SEA.

When I went to ATL88B to ATL717B they posted conversion dates in the summer of 2013 for many of us and then took those back and put us in September and after. Some were to have gone to training in Nov and had Nov and probably 4-6 months after off, they took that back and said stay busy on the 88 for 4-6 months. That was a bummer.

But just know that conversion/training list is not contractually binding at all, it's more of a best estimate.

I've also known plenty of guys on this forum who were within a couple of days of training on a plane and held something else and got out of it. But then again, I've heard of people who weren't allowed out and went through 2/3 of their training on the new airplane.

Thanks a lot FTB. There are just too many possibilities to accurately predict how an AE this big will fall out. Even though this is causing some short term stress and flail on my end, it is awesome that these opportunities exist. I feel very fortunate to have been brought aboard at such a great time for both Delta and the industry at large.

Timbo 03-04-2015 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by CheapTrick (Post 1836972)
You misspelled asinine in this case. Should be Assinine.

No, I'm thinking it should be...

Ass Imilate! :eek: :D

Or perhaps, an Ass in ten, not nine.

Scoop 03-04-2015 01:23 PM

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Purple Drank 03-04-2015 01:23 PM

$4.7 million for enhanced FOQA mods

So management can measure with a micrometer what some fleets' FMSs can't even perform within a yardstick.

Here's an idea. Use the money to update aircraft horizontal and vertical nav performance... not to compile an arcane data trove.


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