I've flown my share of seriously crapped out rental GA airplanes, and have no desire to put myself or my family in one now. Nor do I relish the thought of single engine night IFR over shark infested waters during hurricane season.

What I would like is to be able to rent a plane in say, Florida for a spell, fly 4 people down to some of the Keys or maybe the Bahamas with enough IFR capability to get out of a jam if I had to. Like a Bonanza or a Saratoga maybe. Then on occasion, be able to fly out of another part of the country, say Arizona, in a similar aircraft and go mess around in Mexico or Vegas or something. I wonder if there are any clubs that would have a network like that...?

 

Try these:

Alman Bonanza Club Miami Florida

 

While we're discussing non reving I just learned that the parents of some mucky muck management guy used S2s. Not cool. Should be S3C like the rest of our folks.

 

One of the casualties of the post 9/11 world was the total lack of anything on the rental line more complicated than a 172RG or Arrow.

Anything that is even remotely capable, like a 182RG or 'toga is priced in orbit or has some ridiculous rental requirements (15 hour check out, etc).

Back in the day, it used to be if you did a checkout in a complex aircraft (say a 182), you got a automatic pass on everything "below" it (say a 172 & 152)...Common sense prevailed.

Not these days...silly rules seem to be the norm....like a 5 hour checkout for a 172.

I want to say there is a group that's trying to do the "networked" club thing, but the name escapes me at the moment.

Nu

 

That's all well and good, but be sure you know what it is that the company wants...and not what was posted on teh interwebz.

Nu

 

No kidding! They are becoming like Ebay snipers. Wait until the last minute to request to get on the earlier flight, knocking your wife out of a seat.

 

If a passenger is requesting to go on a earlier flight they will not show up as a HK. A HK is a confirmed passenger who is not assigned a specific seat. They do show up on the travel net availability page. If someone has a ticket on a later flight but ops to try and go early they show up as a SDSB (same day standby)

 

OK, it wasn't an FOM violation. Then what was the FAA violation? What FAR says you have to be redispatched if you return to the gate for any reason? The FAA would never suspend someone's ticket for 30 days without an FAR violation to back it up.

Again, I think you've made the whole thing up. I have no idea why you do this.

Your friend was wrong.

Everyone knows a 121 flight needs to be released by dispatch sailingfun. We're talking about whether you need a re-release if you return to the gate for any reason or the FAA will suspend your ticket for 30 days as you've alleged.

You need to admit you exaggerated a story to make some strange point. There is no such FAR, and the FAA would never suspend your license for 30 days for an alleged FOM violation. Stop digging!

Carl

 

The FAA wouldn't have approved it if it was in contravention of an FAR. That's exactly the point. There is only an FAR that states your flight must be released by dispatch. There is no FAR that talks about returning to the gate and requiring a re-dispatch. A re-dispatch requirement can be made by airlines for many reasons and not be in contravention of an FAR...because such an FAR doesn't exist.

The only instance where that's true is when the FOM mirrors an existing FAR. When they don't, the FAA doesn't get involved.

You might if the unstable parameter was really egregious, but it wouldn't be because you violated an FOM requirement. It would be because of an FAR such as reckless operation of an aircraft. There has to be an FAR to back up any FAA enforcement action.

This nonsense of FAA violations for FOM violations raises its head occasionally by LCA's or others who try to scare people into compliance with company policy. Truth is, there's probably not a single flight we ever fly where we are not in violation of some company proscribed policy.

Carl

 

My folks got S2s when I wasn't married. The high higher-ups in MGMT get PS. RA sometimes flies on a Delta Private Jet, a Citation 10.