To the rest. 1800hrs. is easily done with LCA trip pulls, followed by GS awards on the footprint of the pulled trip. I had a 290hr. month in May, but most averaged 220-240/month.

Holy tax lawyer Batman! Will be interesting to see how this year plays out. The 717 staffing is much better than Nov 15.

11-26-2016 | 04:46 AM

#190704

Tanker1497

Bus driver

Joined: Aug 2007

Posts: 899

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingfun

With the numbers you are posting you will blow them away.

These numbers won't be bankable. Staffing on the 717 is considerably better than one year ago. As to blowing them away, Their A plan alone is considerable; add the B plan and they're cooking with fire. My friends enjoy premium pay at the cargos.

11-26-2016 | 04:55 AM

#190705

Tanker1497

Bus driver

Joined: Aug 2007

Posts: 899

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoop

First off - I was saying what you did was achievable after some on here were doubting you. Forgive me for backing you up - I'll try not to do that again.

Secondly - I am pretty sure I have a very good idea how you do it. Or do you think you have cleverly discovered a unique way to maximize your pay that only you are privy to and all your fellow Delta Pilots are just too obtuse to figure it out?

In any case like many have said - I doubt all of QOL givebacks will get in the way of you earning 150 hours a month the easy way, while the rest of Yes voters are busy selling our greedy souls for the $$$$.

Scoop

Apologies Scoop. I was reacting to your qol vs $ statement in the post. I fly half the hours I'm paid, on average. Not everyone can do that. Our votes are in on the TA. Like any democratic election, I'll live with the results and move on. The thing that bothers me is getting pegged as a DPA supporter because I don't like the TA. The two aren't connected. Thanks for keeping me honest Scoop.

PS I don't think I'm clever! I learned to roll thunder fromy one of the best. His pay to work ratio brings a tear to my eye!

11-26-2016 | 05:22 AM

#190706

RockyBoy

Doesn't Get Weekends Off

Joined: Jun 2007

Posts: 2,599

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanker1497

^^^

Even with the shortage we have looming, the GS trip buy plan is never long term. I've seen it go through 3 cycles on the 320 in the last 7 years. When the getting is good, it's good. They always seem to catch up and then that plan dries back up even with lots of hiring.

I've done 3 125+ hour months the last few months and while the money is good, QOL stinks. You basically put yourself on voluntary SC at any base for the entire month.

11-26-2016 | 05:42 AM

#190707

TexanDriver

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: May 2014

Posts: 342

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanker1497

Jan 148, Feb 194, Mar 135, April 155, May 140, Jun 178, Jul 156, Aug 195, September 111, Oct 129, Nov 144 (probably add 10 more with a 30th spill GS). Should do 120 in Dec with my eyes closed. 150/month. Easy Peezy

44 hours this month! But I was off Thanksgiving and saw Disney on Ice with the kid last night. I'll ***** myself out to the company when she's in college. But right now my QOL is based on time home with her.

11-26-2016 | 06:05 AM

#190708

rbigred300

Line Holder

Joined: Jan 2015

Posts: 84

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Do 717As at the very bottom of the seniority list get any Greenslips or IAs or is the staffing good enough for captains that GS/IAs are rare? Looking at the daily trip coverage it seems that premium pay would be scarce.

11-26-2016 | 06:34 AM

#190709

Hank Kingsley

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: May 2015

Posts: 2,960

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From: Power top

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobZ

Just a bit of public school math here..... but 1800 hours of 717b probably doesn't equate to a similarly situated and inclined 777A pay.

Or perhaps even a similarly situated and inclined 717a pay.

Just because a pilot moves to the left seat..... doesn't mean they automatically lose the ability to do the math.

I applaud anyone who's willing to max the system. But it does entail being at the beck and call of crew skeds, something I won't do. QOL is flying to Nice on Tuesdays in my book, or every weekend off.

1800 hours of 717B is approximately what a widebody Captain would make flying a "normal" schedule. How's my math?

11-26-2016 | 06:49 AM

#190710

notEnuf

Racketeer

Joined: Mar 2015

Posts: 13,320

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From: N60.4858 W149.9327

Your math is correct. Just shows you can have captain pay as a new hire with no QOL or wait 3 months and be a 4 month veteran and have no QOL commuting to NYC for captain pay. Seniority (or juniority in this case) has its perks. Choices are great.