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02-21-2017, 07:45 PM

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sailingfun

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Originally Posted by Dustycrophopper

Wont the 350 take care of the 747 displacements ?

Things change but as of last week the initial 350 bid is planned to include more positions than the 747 is staffed at.

02-21-2017, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Things change but as of last week the initial 350 bid is planned to include more positions than the 747 is staffed at.

Now THAT would be awesome!

If true........

Denny

02-21-2017, 08:27 PM

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LOMLNOWH (LayOver MeaL NO WithHolding) is the per diem for trips that layover

NLOMLWH (No LayOver MeaL WithHolding) is for trips with without a layover.

Thanks!

I also found the same number by looking at box 12c of my W-2.

02-22-2017, 05:34 AM

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throwing in a early retirement deal would help too...

02-22-2017, 06:27 AM

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Question - say one was awarded the 350 in this initial bid, but because it will be a year long bid most likely, they didn't train until the fall. Does the 2 year seat lock start from the day of the award or the day you convert?
If they are really planning that massive of a 350 bid this will get crazy. I am starting to wonder how they are going to do it with the C series
What they really should do long term is stick to this:
350
330
737
320
C series

02-22-2017, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane

Now THAT would be awesome!

If true........

Denny

Yeah, I am also wondering about the timelines overlap. DAL might need 80-150 A350 dudes while 747 is still not parked.
Is that about correct?

02-22-2017, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dustycrophopper

Does the 2 year seat lock start from the day of the award or the day you convert?

Date of the award per 23.A.7.b of the contract.

Remember, under our new PWA, the one year conversion window only comes into existence if there are displacements (23.D.11) and they only get to do it once in a calendar year.

02-22-2017, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood

Yeah, I am also wondering about the timelines overlap. DAL might need 80-150 A350 dudes while 747 is still not parked.
Is that about correct?

With a 365 day conversion window from May, I'll bet there won't be much overlap if the 747 is really gone by the end of the year. Between now and May 2018 there are 15 747 A's turning 65. I suspect they will take a displacement bid and then either get bypassed or retire just before going to training (or even in training

). Heck, that's what I'd do....

Denny

02-22-2017, 09:55 AM

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). Heck, that's what I'd do....

Denny

You can't bypass a displaced pilot so you will not see that option. I doubt you will see many retire either. What you will see is a lot of pilots going out on disability. There is a window for the next few years where disability will be far more lucrative option than even a pilot with a full NWA retirement. Many will take the displacement and wait until a class date begins. They will go out sick at that point and between sick and DPMA pick up full pay for 15 months and then revert to disability boosted an extra 4 grand a month by the PS and retro.