Airline Pilot Central Forums - Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

"Dude"...I have been here 18+ years and only ONCE have I seen a captain yell at rampers so loudly that it could be heard by the pax (and it was truly inappropriate, etc).

Never once have I seen a captain making fun of pax to their face.

While I have seen a couple of captains (appropriately) calling out FAs for poor performance, never once have I seen one "talk down" to them in an obnoxious, arrogant manner.

It seems to me that perhaps you ought to look a little closer in the mirror and ask yourself if you are looking in all the wrong places for people with "issues" or if the issues are creations of your own imagination.

I have never seen anyone making fun of pax, but on at least two occasions, one from JS and the other from the right seat, I have witnessed a captain basically screaming at the ramp guy.. The one from the JS was really, really embarrassing...

JungleBus

05-20-2015 07:28 AM

In a year I've flown with one guy who yelled at rampers, berated gate agents & F/As, argued with ATC over runway assignments, and refused to start the second engine until exactly 2:00 before takeoff (on an 88) despite having a new FO struggling to get all the checklists done in that time. He's pretty much the only guy I've flown with who just failed at life, everyone else has been pretty fantastic (ok, there was the one 9/11 truther, but he was at least a nice guy).

Mesabah

05-20-2015 07:29 AM

In other news, Southwest wants to start another airfare war, and since the announcement, airline stocks have shed close to 10% on their stock prices.

Over the next decade, SWA is probably going to fade hard.

MikeF16

05-20-2015 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 1884458)

I saw an -88 captain rip the van driver a new one because the AC was broke (layover was in MSP and it was like 50F out...). My captain stayed behind and smoothed things over, but it was really quite embarrassing.

maddogmax

05-20-2015 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1884468)

This and the fact that Doug Parker was on Mad Money last night and said that the airlines are starting to add capacity to the system. Investors don't want to hear that.

buckleyboy

05-20-2015 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by duece12345 (Post 1884432)

All I was trying to imply was that not everyone could cut it in the real world at this pay rate.

Damn straight! Those that realize this are the good ones and are fun to fly with. Those that don't realize this commit the faux pas mentioned earlier and get offended when someone suggests that airline pilots are nothing more than glorified bus drivers (complete with that hat!). It's a good, easy job, folks. Why make it harder than it has to be? Among other things, I have started a business. Hardest thing I have ever done. Incomparably harder than any aviation training I have ever been through. If you think I am crazy, I submit that you should be VERY thankful you have the pilot gig going for you.

pilotstats

05-20-2015 08:04 AM

filler......

Mesabah

05-20-2015 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by buckleyboy (Post 1884487)

I would say 95%+ couldn't replace their Delta income. It takes time to build back up to $300K a year, a decade or more. I don't doubt that most would make it back to 6 figures, but due to the lost time value of money, they would be way behind on their Delta career earnings. Also, due to Obamacare, starting a business is infinitely more difficult than it was a few years ago. Most would have to make a leap of faith investment, and hope for the best.

duece12345

05-20-2015 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1884466)

What are doing? You are new. You need self reflection. It is obviously your fault. Every seasoned airline pilot could make the same money in corporate America. They are all incredibly professional, smart, and natural born leaders.

In all seriousness, good to know I am not the only one who has witnessed this stuff.