Thanks, but trust me I'm very familiar with the backdoor and it looks like JULY and is even labeled as such but when you (or at least I) click on the X what comes up is the month of JUNE (even though it's labeled JULY)

 

Pull up the July grid and click on the X for your category. JUN shows up for some reason. Change JUN to JUL at that point and you will get the July sched.

 

Are these the same guys that produced the sick leave charts for the MEC?

 

Let everyone know that in section 14 of the new TA. Besides the 15 days sick look back in 365 days. There is also the invasion of your privacy look back. This is retroactive day of signing. 24 days sick in 365 and 52 days sick in 3yr look back. Delta now will have access to all your medical and prescription and anything else records!!! Basically cart blanch to your private life. Vote NO!

 

It is crazy that Delta is going this direction with sick leave. How about we demand to be treated like adults?

Forget Vacations And Sick Leave: A New Way To Give Employees Time Off - Forbes

"When you treat people like mature responsible adults, they act like mature responsible adults"

I'd bet the rumored "sick abuse" went up when we had the policy of the CP calling to harass us about sick calls, then up more after the sick verification policy went into effect. Does anyone think this will stop those who abuse sick time from abusing it?

 

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The insulting thing is that we still do not have paternity leave or negotiated paid family leave to use as we like.

CPO should have stopped calling with c12.

The average sick leave usage went from about 50k hours/mo in June of 2012 to just over 65k hours/mo in 2015.

I feel as though many of us on the line view sick as a negotiated benefit to be used as it will. While the company views it differently.

There will be more information in the road show, certainly...but please standby for a neg. notepad on all of this.

 

Well since it's unscientific why don't we have the poll taken by DALPA released? Someone must have the key to the lockbox it's in. Would love to see this "scientific" poll. No one would ask for a reduction of any $$$ when the company is making record profits.

 

Sick time is for times you are sick. And sick means when you are unable to legally self certify to fly. That includes a ton of times when some 3rd party hatchet man won't always be able to "verify" your upset stomach or nausea or squirts or headache or sore back or whatever. Not all "sick" time is for an easily verifiable flu. And even an easily verifiable flu isn't easy to verify if you don't go bow before a suspicious and potentially hostile 3rd party during the peak of your symptoms.

This is a huge safety issue.

Not only that, the nonsense that the group being 3 years older should only account for 0.1% more sick leave is insane. Medical issues increase exponentially in your final 3 years, not a combines 0.1% increase. I suspect to get that fantasy number they took the average age of the entire group including all the new hires which drastically lowers the average.

In any case, this new policy is a huge assault on our ability to self certify and it WILL result in many, many more pilots flying sick and result in less safety in a supposed attempt to crack down on a handful of "abusers" who will likely continue to "abuse" it anyway because many of them already have the medical stuff already in place to call out whenever they want anyway and there's nothing anyone can do about that.

This is a horrible policy and reason enough to vote no.

 

You people are all idiots. Read your current contract section 15B. The new sick leave is only about changing the 100 hour requirement to a day's missed requirement. If there weren't people abusing the system right now then we wouldn't be discussing this. I've had captains tell me without my asking about times they called in sick and weren't sick. You know you're out there and I think the ones most upset about this are guilty parties. Where's the integrity in that huh?