Credit hours are how much you're paid. Block hours are how productive you are as a pilot. The difference between them is how good a contract you have. Our current contract is quite good for us. Management is not as happy.

This is bit off topic, but can someone remind me again why it is ethical or even legal for SD to retain his DALPA membership? How can he be a card carrying member of a bargaining agent and at the same time sit across the table in opposition to that very bargaining agent?

Agreed, this is a huge problem.

Minor point but I highly doubt there will be arbitrators but there almost certainly will be mediators based on SD's letter.

Arbitrators are basically "judges" (one picked by ALPA, one picked by the company and the "neutral" who actually decides the case because the other two almost always cancel each other out). The arbitration panel listens to the case presented by both sides and then renders a decision which is virtually unappealable (just ask the Alaska pilots back in 2005(?)).

Mediators are more like touchy feely marriage counselors. They can make suggestions but their suggestions are not binding.

Regardless, I have no doubt that Richard will stay true to his word this summer that Option "B" will be a much slower route. Think I am going to need a bigger popcorn bucket for this show. 😆

If management scheduled us a little better, that difference would diminish. Had a domestic trip recently with 7+ hours of trip credit. That is pretty inefficient.

Building more efficient trips is a management decision, but as you see with their contract proposals, they would like to have US pay for their inefficiencies. They will buy 11 diverse fleet types on the cheap used airplane market, then expect US to pay for them, just like we did with the 717's in 2012, through reduced profit sharing, IOE trip pulls, and all the other goodies they would like to sneak into our next TA.

They won't admit that we are already 15-20% more efficient as a pilot group, due to PBS and 'no cap' with swaps. Even SD's chart is based on everyone flying 85/mo, not 75, and lots of guys are flying to the FAR maximums today, instead of having a 75 hour cap 10 years ago. Oh, and we have less vacation too, so there's that.

This is why we need DALPA to publish the actual number of how many Billions this pilot group has ALREADY contributed to Delta's recovery since bankruptcy. The loss of our Defined Benefit retirement plan alone was worth many billions in funding requirements, then add in the ongoing pay cuts, we are still 18% below 2004 rates, then add in the PBS staffing efficiencies requiring 15% fewer pilots, lost vacation weeks, it all adds up to Delta's Industry Leading Profits... and now they want to take some of our profit sharing back too....:rolleyes:

I want Curly to produce a chart showing exactly how much Management is being compensated right now, compared to 10 years ago, and how much of today's $6Billion in profits was due to the Pilot's ongoing concessions.

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DVR alert: The History of the Eagles. CNN tonight. If you haven't seen it, prepare for a great documentary.

Not everyone agrees with that. I myself love that. That would be the first trip I would pick up at 7 hours of credit. I like those inefficiencies paid to me while on the beach on overnight. If I wanted to work 7 hour plus days like Southwest I would have went there.

Thanks for the reminder! I'll watch. Do they tell how Frey (RIP) and Henley screwed over Felder? :)