Head? Who said head?
I'll take some of that!

 

Thx orvil! I kinda figured that. Just wanted to make sure before I bid.

Denny

 

What I don't know about bidding would fill a pretty large book. However, I routinely get reserve schedules that have stuff on there that doesn't meet the res rules. For example one day 'block' of res. So you could bid your required days off, let them figure out if they want to give you 3 days on or not.

 

Aaaandd we did, and it was great. Like Vikings with horns on their heads...head? Who said head

 

Denny, if you have any April flying that touches May 1 (last day of the April bid period) that also applies to the min days on rule for May.

There is an excellent explanation of PBS reserve bidding in the PBS Gouge.

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Does anybody know the answer to this convoluted Payback/Whiteslip question?

I recently used a PayBack day to drop a one day trip, then White Slipped it back (now the trip is on my line twice for essentially double pay) Now, I have more payback days available. Can I repeat the process-- drop the same trip with another PB day and then WS it yet again?
Thanks,
BV

 

I tried doing exactly this 2 summers ago. After the 3rd PB was applied it seemed to confuse the computer. I ended up having to call Alpa and they worked with scheduling to sort it out. I don't think there is a reason you can't do it (other than your Sked only has 2 columns). My end result was they gave me back one of my PB days and pulled the trip for the 3rd time and we all pretended like it never happened...basically I picked it up and dropped it twice and left it at that - never flew the trip.

I'm not sure if you could press to test (I was just happy to not have to fly the trip so I didn't push too hard) and successfully do it a third time. I do know that they had a really hard time even understanding what I was up to, and doing it a 3rd time required manual intervention from scheduling.

 

I hadn't heard this one before, very good gouge. Thanks for sharing.

Deny,

To pile on to Sputnik's reply, you can't violate the reserve rules but PBS/DAL can. This generally happens when you're junior and you get stuck working on days you don't want to work due to coverage requirements. I've been given single days of reserve; typically at the beginning of the month, on holidays, or weekends when coverage is inadequate.

In your case, if those 4 days are all you really care about then you could just bid "prefer off" for those 4 days and let PBS take care of the rest. You can add extras like "prefer weekends off" or "set condition" and then tell PBS how many days you'd like to work in a row followed by how much time off you'd like.

You can use the command 'all or nothing, else start next bid group' if you want to try several different iterations of days off. You just have to make sure that your last line in PBS drops the 'all or nothing' command.

 

Thx Herk. I'm done on the 26th for the month. I'll take a look at it.

Denny

 

Yes, you can. But as Leine said, by the second or third time it gets very confusing, so usually you need a scheduling supervisor, or help from the ALPA sked guy to help push it thru. If its a high-dollar one day, and no one senior to you snakes it thru a WhiteSlip - go for it!

That's working the system. Just be prepared to fly it, or to lose it, and then to follow up with the phone call to get paid for when you want.