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Reroute pay question. I read the reroute section of the PWA but it's still unclear to me.
I was on 1-day GS and just got rerouted into a 2nd day. The contract made it seem like I get the GS pay plus reroute pay. Is this correct? My time card shows both the GS pay and 10:30 of reroute pay but I've seen reroute pay disappear after the fact when they do the audit. Thanks |
Originally Posted by 404yxl
(Post 2110659)
Hey, Timbo said "we are all now flying on average, 90 hours per month" so I based his statement on flying time.
I get it, we fly more than we use to, but I don't get how non-flying credit time is a bad thing. Don't you want to get more pay for less block hours of flying? I know I would rather. Soft time can really add up. You guys should check out the regional game, those guys are getting abused to the max block time far more than any mainline pilot is and a lot don't come close to the credit time that is added on to their pay. gzsg, are you saying that it is a bad thing that you are flying 4 hours and getting paid 13 hours? Seems like a trip most pilots would love. I'm old and senior. For you younger pilots I want you to understand that a hard 75 hours max would generate over 1000 captains and move you up huge in your category. This ability to white slip all your vacation back costs jobs. Personally I think our hourly rates should be 50% higher and we should have a hard 75 hour cap. We work way too many days. While I'm on a roll, our trip construction at 5:15 a day is pathetic. We need a 3 for 1 trip rig. Managment creates worthless trip because they can. A three day trip should be worth 18 hours minimum. Management should want us to be more productive and that means upgrading their 1960s software and increasing daily trip value. A 6 hour min day would fix the problem as well. |
Originally Posted by gzsg
(Post 2110719)
My only point is we are averaging at least 90 hours per month.
I'm old and senior. For you younger pilots I want you to understand that a hard 75 hours max would generate over 1000 captains and move you up huge in your category. This ability to white slip all your vacation back costs jobs. Personally I think our hourly rates should be 50% higher and we should have a hard 75 hour cap. We work way too many days. While I'm on a roll, our trip construction at 5:15 a day is pathetic. We need a 3 for 1 trip rig. Managment creates worthless trip because they can. A three day trip should be worth 18 hours minimum. Management should want us to be more productive and that means upgrading their 1960s software and increasing daily trip value. A 6 hour min day would fix the problem as well. I want more soft time for less work. Frankly, pay should be more duty time and trip time focused. We should have better trip rigs across the whole industry. 3:1 should be the standard, but just look at what the regional guys have to put up with 4:1 is if they are lucky. |
Originally Posted by 404yxl
(Post 2110734)
Again, I don't disagree with what you are saying that we work more than we use to, I just don't think accruing more credit than block time is a bad thing. If the contract allowed you to credit 150 hours while only flying 50 hours of block, do you think that is necessarily bad?
I want more soft time for less work. Frankly, pay should be more duty time and trip time focused. We should have better trip rigs across the whole industry. 3:1 should be the standard, but just look at what the regional guys have to put up with 4:1 is if they are lucky. You ain't at the regionals anymore, so knock that crap off. Is your real goal to drag the Main Line down to Regional rules?.:rolleyes: Oh, and on the credit/block pay pay thing, if we had a 75 hour cap, like in the good old days, when we also had a retirement, the company would have to hire more and upgrade more F/O's to Captain. More Money, More Time Off. Working 90 hours a month average today is nuts, compared to the 12 days, 75 hour months we used to fly, back when the company only made $350 million per year.:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 2110863)
Why do you keep comparing us to the Regionals? Why? The Regionals only exist because the Majors sold their scope years ago, for pay rates. Now the Regionals can't find enough pilots willing to work for minimum wage, so why would you want to compare any Mainline Pay/Benefit to the Regionals?
You ain't at the regionals anymore, so knock that crap off. Is your real goal to drag the Main Line down to Regional rules?.:rolleyes: Oh, and on the credit/block pay pay thing, if we had a 75 hour cap, like in the good old days, when we also had a retirement, the company would have to hire more and upgrade more F/O's to Captain. More Money, More Time Off. Working 90 hours a month average today is nuts, compared to the 12 days, 75 hour months we used to fly, back when the company only made $350 million per year.:rolleyes: Also, why are you upset when I mention where the regionals are at? It has directly dragged down mainline pilots for years, just like the ME3 and NAI will be/is doing. At least the regionals are on their way out and we will finally be getting the right contracts back at mainline, as long as we understand we have the leverage. I understand the leverage that now exists and hopefully we can take advantage of it by creating more better mainline paying jobs as the regionals go away. I hope you understand I am on your side here. I want better trip rigs, vacation, sick time, etc. More soft pay for less flying, right? Vacations that matter. I hate working more than 75 hours in a given month, but enjoy those easy trips with 2 legs over three days and a lot of relaxing that comes in between. |
Are the schedulers playing games with the OE trip drops again?
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Originally Posted by satchip
(Post 2110926)
Are the schedulers playing games with the OE trip drops again?
If you see something that does not look right e-mail your reps with the specific rotation. I did this a few months ago and they forwarded it to the DALPA scheduling guy who reviewed it. Scoop |
The call finally came almost two hours late. Guess they were busy. Caused a lot of angst though...
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Originally Posted by satchip
(Post 2110963)
The call finally came almost two hours late. Guess they were busy. Caused a lot of angst though...
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Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 2110863)
Why do you keep comparing us to the Regionals? Why? The Regionals only exist because the Majors sold their scope years ago, for pay rates. Now the Regionals can't find enough pilots willing to work for minimum wage, so why would you want to compare any Mainline Pay/Benefit to the Regionals?
You ain't at the regionals anymore, so knock that crap off. Is your real goal to drag the Main Line down to Regional rules?.:rolleyes: Oh, and on the credit/block pay pay thing, if we had a 75 hour cap, like in the good old days, when we also had a retirement, the company would have to hire more and upgrade more F/O's to Captain. More Money, More Time Off. Working 90 hours a month average today is nuts, compared to the 12 days, 75 hour months we used to fly, back when the company only made $350 million per year.:rolleyes: |
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