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Old 12-06-2016 | 06:22 AM
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Three days under the new PWA and we already have an interpretation/implementation issue. Gotta love APC. You guys are arguing FOR the pilots, right?

This will continue to be entertaining. And I thought I'd quit reading after the PWA. Popcorn anyone? My prediction is sailing will take a company line on all these issues.
Old 12-06-2016 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Three days under the new PWA and we already have an interpretation/implementation issue. Gotta love APC. You guys are arguing FOR the pilots, right?

This will continue to be entertaining. And I thought I'd quit reading after the PWA. Popcorn anyone? My prediction is sailing will take a company line on all these issues.
Well thats boring...but 100% spot on
Old 12-06-2016 | 07:10 AM
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Ain't contracts fun? 😆
Old 12-06-2016 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
My prediction is sailing will take a company line on all these issues.
If you actually read his post, you would see he is arguing for the pilot friendly interpretation for the topic under discussion.

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Old 12-06-2016 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
If you actually read his post, you would see he is arguing for the pilot friendly interpretation for the topic under discussion.
Actually, I think the pilot-friendly interpretation would be allowing any new hire with less than 12 months of seat freeze remaining to avail themselves of the new provision not just those who have incurred a 24 month freeze.
Old 12-06-2016 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Actually, I think the pilot-friendly interpretation would be allowing any new hire with less than 12 months of seat freeze remaining to avail themselves of the new provision not just those who have incurred a 24 month freeze.
Isn't that what he was arguing? Now I'm confused.
Old 12-06-2016 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Actually, I think the pilot-friendly interpretation would be allowing any new hire with less than 12 months of seat freeze remaining to avail themselves of the new provision not just those who have incurred a 24 month freeze.
So all pilots hired within the last year would effectively have zero freeze now? If that's what you're (your?) suggesting there is no way they'll do that.

We got the deeply beloved OE trip drops in the first place only because we gave them a one year freeze for NH pilots. There is zero chance they'll grant relief on that outside of the already existing situations where they have to (first time upgrade, new category, etc).

If we are able to make this happen, it will only be because of a massive loophole zinger and the company caught in awe saying "omg we didn't think they'd do that"

I suspect they'd deny it anyway and take it to arbitration, bust out the NNP's and argue (likely successfully) that this wasn't the intent. But who knows maybe its worth a try.
Old 12-06-2016 | 11:18 AM
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Anyone try to list non-rev on Southwest the last couple of days? A friend told me they were no longer taking phone listings and wanted us to list on my ID Travel. However, there isn't a way to select a specific flight (like AA). Anyone else hear anything? Also, no change on the DALPA Jumpseat page.
Old 12-06-2016 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Anyone try to list non-rev on Southwest the last couple of days? A friend told me they were no longer taking phone listings and wanted us to list on my ID Travel. However, there isn't a way to select a specific flight (like AA). Anyone else hear anything? Also, no change on the DALPA Jumpseat page.
they still allow phone listing for jumpseaters. it's offline non rev that they dont do over phone anymore.
Old 12-06-2016 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Three days under the new PWA and we already have an interpretation/implementation issue. Gotta love APC. You guys are arguing FOR the pilots, right?

This will continue to be entertaining. And I thought I'd quit reading after the PWA. Popcorn anyone? My prediction is sailing will take a company line on all these issues.
I try and take the line that gives the pilot the correct information.
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