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06-25-2017 | 01:50 PM
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We may not like it but they are exercising their contractual rights. If you don't like it, tell your reps and try to get it removed next contract cycle.
Side note: I have never OOBWSed.
Denny
Side note: I have never OOBWSed.
Denny
06-25-2017 | 03:13 PM
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I'm not saying it's you, however I've seen that some of the people screaming the loudest about guys exercising their contractual right to OOBWS are the same people that were green slipping their hinies off with guys on furlough. Also exercising their contractual right but they justified it because "guys it's a green slip".
06-25-2017 | 03:23 PM
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As an update...received a nice response from the Atlanta station manager. The gate agent cleared the non-revs early (49 minutes prior) because 'there were plenty of seats'. My wife switched to the flight from a later one at D-48. Counseling/learning has occurred I am being told. Don't like how it played out, but I did get a timely response.
06-25-2017 | 04:31 PM
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The only way you can get a OOB white slip is if they are out of inbase reserves unless the coverage is short notice. I guess what you are saying is out of base white slips should not be allowed?
06-25-2017 | 04:39 PM
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I'm not saying it's you, however I've seen that some of the people screaming the loudest about guys exercising their contractual right to OOBWS are the same people that were green slipping their hinies off with guys on furlough. Also exercising their contractual right but they justified it because "guys it's a green slip".
Spent 2 years on furlough. I was lucky. Many were out for far longer.
Hated watching guys pick up open time. White, green, yellow or otherwise.
All this just proves once again that the contract is there to protect us from ourselves as much as it is to protect us from management.
And I don't even have that much of a problem with OOBWS these days.
Nobody's on furlough anymore.
Although it is a bit of a seniority "end-around".
I just wish they wouldn't do it on days when reserve coverage is negative.
I guess its possible they're not aware or just not paying attention.
Maybe some of them will read this forum and a light bulb will go on.
06-25-2017 | 05:05 PM
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Believe me, I hear you loud and clear.
Spent 2 years on furlough. I was lucky. Many were out for far longer.
Hated watching guys pick up open time. White, green, yellow or otherwise.
All this just proves once again that the contract is there to protect us from ourselves as much as it is to protect us from management.
And I don't even have that much of a problem with OOBWS these days.
Nobody's on furlough anymore.
Although it is a bit of a seniority "end-around".
I just wish they wouldn't do it on days when reserve coverage is negative.
I guess its possible they're not aware or just not paying attention.
Maybe some of them will read this forum and a light bulb will go on.
Spent 2 years on furlough. I was lucky. Many were out for far longer.
Hated watching guys pick up open time. White, green, yellow or otherwise.
All this just proves once again that the contract is there to protect us from ourselves as much as it is to protect us from management.
And I don't even have that much of a problem with OOBWS these days.
Nobody's on furlough anymore.
Although it is a bit of a seniority "end-around".
I just wish they wouldn't do it on days when reserve coverage is negative.
I guess its possible they're not aware or just not paying attention.
Maybe some of them will read this forum and a light bulb will go on.
Again you can only get a OOB white slip if there is no reserve coverage.
06-25-2017 | 05:18 PM
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I'm saying green slips are better than white slips.
06-25-2017 | 05:22 PM
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06-25-2017 | 06:11 PM
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Does anyone know where in the PWA it references how a partial reserve is calculated for PB days? I've looked and cannot find it...I'm pretty sure they add 9 hours or 9.5 hours to block in, but cannot find the reference. I set up my X days to conflict with TOE and I'm getting one PB day into my bank but should also have a partial that becomes another PB in my bank. I called the OE scheduler and she had no idea what I was talking about. I called Scheduling and he said I should get 2 PB days but couldn't do it because it was a training rotation and the OE planner had to do it. I left a voicemail on her machine but I'd like to have the reference ready if she calls back.
I'll be calling ALPA by the end of the week, if I don't hear anything. Thx in advance
I'll be calling ALPA by the end of the week, if I don't hear anything. Thx in advance
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06-25-2017 | 06:16 PM
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Unless they are dropping trips in their own base and relying on out of base trips to build a schedule.
Which is exactly what they are doing.
And as I said before, I don't really have a problem with that.
Until they pick up the out of base trips on days with no reserves that would have gone to an in-base guy on a green slip.
I understand they have every right to do it under the contract.
Its just "unfortunate".
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