Don’t exactly know the technical answer to your question, however, APDs reset the first of the month that contains your anniversary. So, I would drop a single day APD on a date in the bid before your anniversary month that way it shows on the schedule in the prior month. That should drop the entire trip yet use the current year’s APD instead of next year’s.

Clear as mud?


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I am not 100% but I'll give you my armchair QB answer to this question. APD the 1st day of the trip this month, it will drop the entire trip and the APD should hit this year instead of next. That said, does it really matter which year the APD is in? Why worry about saving next year's APD when you never used this year's? Get your anniversary off and have a good time. You've also got 2 IVDs next year in addition to your APD.

You could also call ALPA and/or scheduling if you want a real answer :).

Thanks for the responses. It processed the way I thought and what you guys said. I was flying early this morning and was debating putting it in before and just went with it. Didn’t want to wake anyone up to ask.

Just got the CJO, so following this thread a lot closer now. Sorry for my lack of knowledge, but what is the APD you guys are speaking of, and how does it work? Sounds like a day off at your anniversary with Delta or something from what has been said.

Authorized Personal Drop

If the company has 20% (??) of the required reserve manning you can use your APD to drop 1 trip per year, except for certain designated holidays. It's use or lose and resets on your date of hire. A PD, or personal drop works the same way except you have no limit on their use but reserve manning must be 100% or greater. My 20% number might be a little off but close enough to get the gist of what an APD is.

APD stands for Authorized Personal Drop. You get one per year. It renews on the 1st of your employment anniversary month. It allows you to drop either a trip or up to 4 reserve days when the reserve coverage is less than optimal. (Don't feel like looking up the exact numbers) Scheduling can deny them on major holidays even if they meet the criteria to be awarded. In this case they are usually awarded but they can be denied.

Oh, by the way, the APD is time off without pay. You cannot pick up a different trip over a day/s covered by an APD.

Welcome!:)

Denny

Heard about a trick to drop only the 1st day of a trip with the APD (entire trip still drops), then you can pick up on the rest of the days if needed.

If you want to APD a regular line trip, that's exactly how you should do it. Leads to much greater flexibility.

Denny

Strictly speaking, it resets on the first day of your MONTH of hire

In layman's terms an APD is just an extra powerful personal drop, which is unpaid leave. You can use it once a year to drop a trip or up to 4 consecutive reserve days.

It will go through with negative reserve coverage when your normal but unlimited in number personal drop would be denied.

An APD will normally be approved down to 25% reserve coverage, meaning for example with 8 reserves required it would normally be approved with 3 reserves available but not 2.

There are certain Holiday restrictions but I have had APDs approved over holidays before so it can't hurt.

I think of it as my Ace in the hole to get off when I can't bid off so I try to never use it unless I have to.

IVDs now are run prior to APDs so they are more powerful for getting off but they have there own restrictions.

Scoop