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Old 01-28-2018 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NavyFlyer
Speaking of SIM’s:

I was scheduled for special re-qual training (returning from long term MLOA) with a Captain who was returning from long term sick. Our syllabus was 3 days, plus a travel day.

Well, the Captain got sick again and cancelled. My training is now 2 Sim periods, plus a travel day.

Am I pay protected for that third SIM day? I don’t want to lose money because my training partner Captain called out sick. That doesn’t seem right.


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Going non current is actually a good deal. I wouldn't tell a soul other then fill out the template for availability. If you fall of their radar stay home with pay. Non current sim vs currency sim almost the same. My preference would be Non current for the longer the better.
Old 01-28-2018 | 11:42 PM
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I think I know the answer to this, but I’ll throw it out to see what the educated forum folks think.

Return from long term mil leave at end of March. Plan to switch categories since I was out from the 5 Jan 2018 AE. On the AE projected conversions, there are guys junior to me that convert in APR, but they don’t require training, just base swap. The guy below me that requires training is scheduled to train in May, convert in Jun.

Will CR send me to get recurrent in old equipment and fly that until May, or send me through training based on the guys just swapping base?

Any thought are greatly appreciated for family/sanity planning.
Old 01-29-2018 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by duece12345
I think I know the answer to this, but I’ll throw it out to see what the educated forum folks think.

Return from long term mil leave at end of March. Plan to switch categories since I was out from the 5 Jan 2018 AE. On the AE projected conversions, there are guys junior to me that convert in APR, but they don’t require training, just base swap. The guy below me that requires training is scheduled to train in May, convert in Jun.

Will CR send me to get recurrent in old equipment and fly that until May, or send me through training based on the guys just swapping base?

Any thought are greatly appreciated for family/sanity planning.
It depends how long you were out. I think if your mloa lasted over 6 months, they will train you out of seniority order if there's a slot to do so. If training is saturated in your new category they could still send you to your old equipment...requal footprint is pretty short.

So, the answer might be "nobody knows." You're hoping for NQAT...Non Qualified Awaiting Training. Assuming you provide 30 days notice of your return, you'll get paid 1/30th of the ALV per day starting on your return date for every day you sit awaiting training. It seems most MLOA return folks see less than 10 of these days, some get none at all and travel to training on the day they return to active status.

And remember, that guy junior to you isn't scheduled for anything, just projected. Until it's on his schedule, that plan is in jello and they can easily put you in that slot (or an earlier one)...or delay you both.
Old 01-29-2018 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
It depends how long you were out. I think if your mloa lasted over 6 months, they will train you out of seniority order if there's a slot to do so. If training is saturated in your new category they could still send you to your old equipment...requal footprint is pretty short.

So, the answer might be "nobody knows." You're hoping for NQAT...Non Qualified Awaiting Training. Assuming you provide 30 days notice of your return, you'll get paid 1/30th of the ALV per day starting on your return date for every day you sit awaiting training. It seems most MLOA return folks see less than 10 of these days, some get none at all and travel to training on the day they return to active status.

And remember, that guy junior to you isn't scheduled for anything, just projected. Until it's on his schedule, that plan is in jello and they can easily put you in that slot (or an earlier one)...or delay you both.
Great advice. Only out for 90ish days, so I’ll be ready for anything I guess.
Old 01-29-2018 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by HTBH
At what point will they contact you and either put you in a sim or get a flight for you if you are about to lose landing currency? Do you have any say in the dates or a flight? Will you actually go non-current or will they try to get you in before you drop?

I go non-current on 1 Feb. Yes, I've tried to Yellow and Greenslip. And yes I filled out the 14 days of availability thing in icrew (down to 4 days left...)

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Old 01-29-2018 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by duece12345
Great advice. Only out for 90ish days, so I’ll be ready for anything I guess.
I would call and make sure you can pick a category from the last AE and do not have to return to your original category. For most leave types if your not out more than six months you go back to your original category. Not sure on mil leave but I would check.
Old 01-29-2018 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I would call and make sure you can pick a category from the last AE and do not have to return to your original category. For most leave types if your not out more than six months you go back to your original category. Not sure on mil leave but I would check.
Military Affairs Committee confirmed some time ago (letter of agreement) that you can go to any category your seniority can hold for any AE that you missed due to MLOA.
Old 01-29-2018 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by IPAs
Going non current is actually a good deal. I wouldn't tell a soul other then fill out the template for availability. If you fall of their radar stay home with pay. Non current sim vs currency sim almost the same. My preference would be Non current for the longer the better.


They got me a seat fill. I am going to training. I just now have 2 sims plus a Travel day. My question is if I’m pay protected for the 3rd training day that was removed from my schedule.


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Old 01-29-2018 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by NavyFlyer
They got me a seat fill. I am going to training. I just now have 2 sims plus a Travel day. My question is if I’m pay protected for the 3rd training day that was removed from my schedule.
Probably not, since you'll be done with training a day earlier, you will either have a day to pick up a trip, or if reserve a day off or a day of reserve.

If you go to training a day later, then that would be 1/30 or 1/31 of ALV pay more anyway.
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Originally Posted by TED74
Military Affairs Committee confirmed some time ago (letter of agreement) that you can go to any category your seniority can hold for any AE that you missed due to MLOA.
As in go immediately, or simply get the award and get in line, meanwhile get recurrent on your previous equipment?
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