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Gunfighter 04-19-2018 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 2576032)
Debating if I should do the buyback. They are allegedly decent tablets with the Corporate Bloatware removed.

Try using the personal profile on your tablet for whatever the intended buyback purpose would be, then make your decision. It is a decent tablet for web surfing, email, etc. The buyback price is decent, especially if you have taken care of your tablet. Most negative opinions are related to Jeppesen software and the Content Locker, not the hardware.

Han Solo 04-20-2018 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Dirtdiver (Post 2575727)
What you've described is a GS by a reserve pilot. YS on your X days means you're effectively waiving the X day for free. There are rare circumstances when that's a good idea: ie you're coming up on 5 days of availability and there's a nasty 5 day that will almost certainly be yours, and there's a nice 2 or 3 day going out on your last X day. Or it could finish you off for the month. But you do not get the X day back and it does not tack on over the res guarantee.

The poster asked about a WS by a reserve pilot, but there's no such thing. WS is a trip request by a regular line holder.

You incorrectly read my post.

I'm aware RES pilots cannot WS, as it had already been explained once I didn't feel it was necessary to belabor the point. I didn't say YS is paid above guarantee, if I said "if you YS above guarantee" -- for example guarantee is 72:00 but the YS takes you to 75 you'll be paid 75 hours for the month, not 72.

edit: and btw, I agree with reasons a RES pilot might choose to YS on an XX day

RockyBoy 04-20-2018 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2576475)
You incorrectly read my post.

I'm aware RES pilots cannot WS, as it had already been explained once I didn't feel it was necessary to belabor the point. I didn't say YS is paid above guarantee, if I said "if you YS above guarantee" -- for example guarantee is 72:00 but the YS takes you to 75 you'll be paid 75 hours for the month, not 72.

edit: and btw, I agree with reasons a RES pilot might choose to YS on an XX day

Yes, this is correct. If you have already flown to the guarantee and you YS on an X day you will be paid above the guarantee.

The number one reason why you would ever choose to YS on an X day is that you have a block of 5 X days and you learn your mother-in-law is coming to stay for those 5 days. Lifesaver.

sailingfun 04-21-2018 04:20 AM

You might also choose to yellow high to become full for the month.

Dirtdiver 04-21-2018 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2576475)
You incorrectly read my post.

I'm aware RES pilots cannot WS, as it had already been explained once I didn't feel it was necessary to belabor the point. I didn't say YS is paid above guarantee, if I said "if you YS above guarantee" -- for example guarantee is 72:00 but the YS takes you to 75 you'll be paid 75 hours for the month, not 72.

edit: and btw, I agree with reasons a RES pilot might choose to YS on an XX day

I stand corrected. I should have said what he described...

Han Solo 04-21-2018 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Dirtdiver (Post 2577073)
I stand corrected.

happens to me all the time, no problem.

DELTAFO 04-21-2018 12:02 PM

Looks like over at Endeavor, the time between block out and when the aircraft moves forward under its own power is no longer considered flight time toward a pilot's Part 117 flight time limitations. That's an extra 5-10 minutes per flight that now can be used to schedule a pilot for additional flying in a day, month, year, etc. That change could make some very long scheduled days or be perfect for lengthy reroutes.

Do we have anything in our PWA that prevents Delta from doing that here?

rivervisual 04-21-2018 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 2577279)
Looks like over at Endeavor, the time between block out and when the aircraft moves forward under its own power is no longer considered flight time toward a pilot's Part 117 flight time limitations. That's an extra 5-10 minutes per flight that now can be used to schedule a pilot for additional flying in a day, month, year, etc. That change could make some very long scheduled days or be perfect for lengthy reroutes.

Do we have anything in our PWA that prevents Delta from doing that here?

That’s how it was at Air Wisconsin. On a normal day, it was 5-6 minutes less of flight time every leg. Sometimes it was as high as 20+ (something happens during the pushback). Doing 3-6 legs a day, 4 days per trip, 4 trips a month, that’s about 6-8 hours of extra flying you can do every month.

FL370esq 04-21-2018 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 2577279)
Do we have anything in our PWA that prevents Delta from doing that here?

2.A.34 and past practice?

sailingfun 04-21-2018 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 2577279)
Looks like over at Endeavor, the time between block out and when the aircraft moves forward under its own power is no longer considered flight time toward a pilot's Part 117 flight time limitations. That's an extra 5-10 minutes per flight that now can be used to schedule a pilot for additional flying in a day, month, year, etc. That change could make some very long scheduled days or be perfect for lengthy reroutes.

Do we have anything in our PWA that prevents Delta from doing that here?

The FAA defines block time as starting when the aircraft first moves under its own power. The PWA defines it as first movement of the aircraft.


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