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06-26-2018 | 06:02 PM
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06-26-2018 | 06:09 PM
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06-26-2018 | 06:10 PM
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I was on LC today and was passed for a GS. I thought that 23.O.12 would apply, but ALPA tells me that is a carry-over relic of the contract that was not properly updated when FAR 117 was published. According to ALPA the only GS a LC pilot can get under that provision is one that reports between 10 and 12 hours from the assignment. He sounded very confident in his answer but it's most definitely not what the contract states. Can anybody verify that FAR117 has a provision that trumps this part of the contract?
ALPA is correct.
You have to have 10 hours of rest before starting a FDP. Since you are not at rest when on long call, the min report time to a trip assigned when on LC is 10 hours. If the report time is 12 hours or more they would just give you a regular reserve assignment.
06-26-2018 | 06:38 PM
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ALPA is correct.
You have to have 10 hours of rest before starting a FDP. Since you are not at rest when on long call, the min report time to a trip assigned when on LC is 10 hours. If the report time is 12 hours or more they would just give you a regular reserve assignment.
You have to have 10 hours of rest before starting a FDP. Since you are not at rest when on long call, the min report time to a trip assigned when on LC is 10 hours. If the report time is 12 hours or more they would just give you a regular reserve assignment.
06-26-2018 | 06:42 PM
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06-26-2018 | 07:30 PM
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06-27-2018 | 03:03 AM
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It must have been a report time of 10 hours after you were released from LC to rest. Otherwise you weren’t legal to start the the FDP.
06-27-2018 | 03:20 AM
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06-27-2018 | 03:26 AM
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Trip coverage ladder. Reroute is step 22, long call RES into an XX day is 23, and short call RES pilot into an XX day is 24. ALPA can check if they followed the ladder, either way you must fly now/grieve later. Could result in assignment pay and reroute pay.
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I was on LC today and was passed for a GS. I thought that 23.O.12 would apply, but ALPA tells me that is a carry-over relic of the contract that was not properly updated when FAR 117 was published. According to ALPA the only GS a LC pilot can get under that provision is one that reports between 10 and 12 hours from the assignment. He sounded very confident in his answer but it's most definitely not what the contract states. Can anybody verify that FAR117 has a provision that trumps this part of the contract?
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I was on LC today and was passed for a GS. I thought that 23.O.12 would apply, but ALPA tells me that is a carry-over relic of the contract that was not properly updated when FAR 117 was published. According to ALPA the only GS a LC pilot can get under that provision is one that reports between 10 and 12 hours from the assignment. He sounded very confident in his answer but it's most definitely not what the contract states. Can anybody verify that FAR117 has a provision that trumps this part of the contract?
On the GS award the contract never trumps the FAR’s. FAR’s take precedence.
06-27-2018 | 03:38 AM
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Didn't know his flight was delayed at the time I replied. Also aware that the FARs would always take precedence over the contract, just felt odd that such an obvious oversight was still in the contract if it indeed violates 117.
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