Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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Or you can believe what the union says over a flight attendant.
Our JV with Aeroméxico recently turned one year old. What has that first year looked like? There has been a tremendous increase in DAL-coded passengers flying on AM metal and a similar increase of AM- coded passengers on DAL aircraft. We asked ALPA National Economic & Financial Analysis to take a look at the growth in year one, and the results show an equitable distribution of the growth in the first year of the JV. By seats, seat-miles, frequencies and block hours, the Delta share of growth across the border was greater than 50%.
Our JV with Aeroméxico recently turned one year old. What has that first year looked like? There has been a tremendous increase in DAL-coded passengers flying on AM metal and a similar increase of AM- coded passengers on DAL aircraft. We asked ALPA National Economic & Financial Analysis to take a look at the growth in year one, and the results show an equitable distribution of the growth in the first year of the JV. By seats, seat-miles, frequencies and block hours, the Delta share of growth across the border was greater than 50%.
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No idea, what does it have to do with our share of the Aeroméxico joint venture?
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Or you can believe what the union says over a flight attendant.
Our JV with Aeroméxico recently turned one year old. What has that first year looked like? There has been a tremendous increase in DAL-coded passengers flying on AM metal and a similar increase of AM- coded passengers on DAL aircraft. We asked ALPA National Economic & Financial Analysis to take a look at the growth in year one, and the results show an equitable distribution of the growth in the first year of the JV. By seats, seat-miles, frequencies and block hours, the Delta share of growth across the border was greater than 50%.
Our JV with Aeroméxico recently turned one year old. What has that first year looked like? There has been a tremendous increase in DAL-coded passengers flying on AM metal and a similar increase of AM- coded passengers on DAL aircraft. We asked ALPA National Economic & Financial Analysis to take a look at the growth in year one, and the results show an equitable distribution of the growth in the first year of the JV. By seats, seat-miles, frequencies and block hours, the Delta share of growth across the border was greater than 50%.
Now, why isn't Delta just saying yes to ALPA's very reasonable JV scope counter proposal?
When the DOJ ATI paper and commercial agreement are in alignment, why not be the adult in the room?
By being unreasonable Delta management is legitimizing the worst behavior of the MEC. Someone should be mature and break the cycle, MHO.
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Monthly Schedule Question
Hi,
Military 707 pilot at 17 years (staying in til 20 years) that is researching & hoping to get hired by Delta since I'm already in the Atlanta area.
I've read through a few threads on the typical schedule for a Delta pilot and it seems 3 or 4 day trips are the norm. However I've also read about "narrow body" or 717s having shorter trips. From what I've researched that you get paid less for a schedule like that, but if I already have a military retirement then I'd personally rather focus on quality of life over maxing out the pay scale.
My question is can you (once you get a bit of seniority) bid on shorter 2 day trips or short haul out and backs to be home more? Rather than having half the month off can you work more days but do shorter trips like that instead?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Military 707 pilot at 17 years (staying in til 20 years) that is researching & hoping to get hired by Delta since I'm already in the Atlanta area.
I've read through a few threads on the typical schedule for a Delta pilot and it seems 3 or 4 day trips are the norm. However I've also read about "narrow body" or 717s having shorter trips. From what I've researched that you get paid less for a schedule like that, but if I already have a military retirement then I'd personally rather focus on quality of life over maxing out the pay scale.
My question is can you (once you get a bit of seniority) bid on shorter 2 day trips or short haul out and backs to be home more? Rather than having half the month off can you work more days but do shorter trips like that instead?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Hi,
Military 707 pilot at 17 years (staying in til 20 years) that is researching & hoping to get hired by Delta since I'm already in the Atlanta area.
I've read through a few threads on the typical schedule for a Delta pilot and it seems 3 or 4 day trips are the norm. However I've also read about "narrow body" or 717s having shorter trips. From what I've researched that you get paid less for a schedule like that, but if I already have a military retirement then I'd personally rather focus on quality of life over maxing out the pay scale.
My question is can you (once you get a bit of seniority) bid on shorter 2 day trips or short haul out and backs to be home more? Rather than having half the month off can you work more days but do shorter trips like that instead?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Military 707 pilot at 17 years (staying in til 20 years) that is researching & hoping to get hired by Delta since I'm already in the Atlanta area.
I've read through a few threads on the typical schedule for a Delta pilot and it seems 3 or 4 day trips are the norm. However I've also read about "narrow body" or 717s having shorter trips. From what I've researched that you get paid less for a schedule like that, but if I already have a military retirement then I'd personally rather focus on quality of life over maxing out the pay scale.
My question is can you (once you get a bit of seniority) bid on shorter 2 day trips or short haul out and backs to be home more? Rather than having half the month off can you work more days but do shorter trips like that instead?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Hi,
Military 707 pilot at 17 years (staying in til 20 years) that is researching & hoping to get hired by Delta since I'm already in the Atlanta area.
I've read through a few threads on the typical schedule for a Delta pilot and it seems 3 or 4 day trips are the norm. However I've also read about "narrow body" or 717s having shorter trips. From what I've researched that you get paid less for a schedule like that, but if I already have a military retirement then I'd personally rather focus on quality of life over maxing out the pay scale.
My question is can you (once you get a bit of seniority) bid on shorter 2 day trips or short haul out and backs to be home more? Rather than having half the month off can you work more days but do shorter trips like that instead?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Military 707 pilot at 17 years (staying in til 20 years) that is researching & hoping to get hired by Delta since I'm already in the Atlanta area.
I've read through a few threads on the typical schedule for a Delta pilot and it seems 3 or 4 day trips are the norm. However I've also read about "narrow body" or 717s having shorter trips. From what I've researched that you get paid less for a schedule like that, but if I already have a military retirement then I'd personally rather focus on quality of life over maxing out the pay scale.
My question is can you (once you get a bit of seniority) bid on shorter 2 day trips or short haul out and backs to be home more? Rather than having half the month off can you work more days but do shorter trips like that instead?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Living locally will be great should you stay near Atlanta. QOL will quickly exceed your military quality of life. But remember, you'll be behind thousands of pilots senior to you. If you want what lots of others want, you'll have last dibs.
So, can you bid on shorter trips to be more? Yes, if you can hold a line. But you probably won't get many of them for some time. You also won't necessarily hold a line (you'll initially be on reserves, most likely), and won't have a ton of control over the trips you're assigned.
In a few years, we will have recently hired 7,000 pilots. As you listen to anecdotes from your buddies or acquaintances here, just know their experience on the relative front of the hiring wave may not necessarily match what yours will be. We will have a ton of retirements accelerating soon and that will help, but accurately forecasting quality of life or your schedule control/characteristics several years out (not to mention through the end of your career) is nearly impossible.
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Hi,
Military 707 pilot at 17 years (staying in til 20 years) that is researching & hoping to get hired by Delta since I'm already in the Atlanta area.
I've read through a few threads on the typical schedule for a Delta pilot and it seems 3 or 4 day trips are the norm. However I've also read about "narrow body" or 717s having shorter trips. From what I've researched that you get paid less for a schedule like that, but if I already have a military retirement then I'd personally rather focus on quality of life over maxing out the pay scale.
My question is can you (once you get a bit of seniority) bid on shorter 2 day trips or short haul out and backs to be home more? Rather than having half the month off can you work more days but do shorter trips like that instead?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Military 707 pilot at 17 years (staying in til 20 years) that is researching & hoping to get hired by Delta since I'm already in the Atlanta area.
I've read through a few threads on the typical schedule for a Delta pilot and it seems 3 or 4 day trips are the norm. However I've also read about "narrow body" or 717s having shorter trips. From what I've researched that you get paid less for a schedule like that, but if I already have a military retirement then I'd personally rather focus on quality of life over maxing out the pay scale.
My question is can you (once you get a bit of seniority) bid on shorter 2 day trips or short haul out and backs to be home more? Rather than having half the month off can you work more days but do shorter trips like that instead?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Yes you can. Although in most narrowbody categories the day lines and two day trips go pretty senior on the initial monthly bid. So it might take a while to get the seniority to hold that type of schedule. Another alternative if your junior is to try and drop or give away your initial schedule and pickup short trips that pop up. In the narrowbody categories there are lot's of short trips that popup due to various reasons. Another option if your looking to be home is to get involved with the training department. Get some time on the jet you want to be on and then apply to become an instructor. They will be in perpetual hiring mode over there for years to come. Then you'll be home every night. Typical rotation is 2 month in the training department and 1 month line flying. You could do that till you have the seniority to hold the shorter trips then go back to flying the line.
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Yes you can. Although in most narrowbody categories the day lines and two day trips go pretty senior on the initial monthly bid. So it might take a while to get the seniority to hold that type of schedule. Another alternative if your junior is to try and drop or give away your initial schedule and pickup short trips that pop up. In the narrowbody categories there are lot's of short trips that popup due to various reasons. Another option if your looking to be home is to get involved with the training department. Get some time on the jet you want to be on and then apply to become an instructor. They will be in perpetual hiring mode over there for years to come. Then you'll be home every night. Typical rotation is 2 month in the training department and 1 month line flying. You could do that till you have the seniority to hold the shorter trips then go back to flying the line.
1. Do you need to be in the left seat to be an instructor or could I do that as a first officer?
2. I've heard the Delta simulator trainers run 24/7. If I instructed is it like midnight shifts or anything like that? I could be wrong on that one since that is something I heard in passing when I did my ATP CTP course in Atlanta with Delta a while back.
Thanks
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That is great advice so thank you so much. I've instructed before in the military and it is a great job. 2 questions I can think of.
1. Do you need to be in the left seat to be an instructor or could I do that as a first officer?
2. I've heard the Delta simulator trainers run 24/7. If I instructed is it like midnight shifts or anything like that? I could be wrong on that one since that is something I heard in passing when I did my ATP CTP course in Atlanta with Delta a while back.
Thanks
1. Do you need to be in the left seat to be an instructor or could I do that as a first officer?
2. I've heard the Delta simulator trainers run 24/7. If I instructed is it like midnight shifts or anything like that? I could be wrong on that one since that is something I heard in passing when I did my ATP CTP course in Atlanta with Delta a while back.
Thanks
Sims run 24/7. Late night sims are fairly rare for a few reasons. But they are there
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That is great advice so thank you so much. I've instructed before in the military and it is a great job. 2 questions I can think of.
1. Do you need to be in the left seat to be an instructor or could I do that as a first officer?
2. I've heard the Delta simulator trainers run 24/7. If I instructed is it like midnight shifts or anything like that? I could be wrong on that one since that is something I heard in passing when I did my ATP CTP course in Atlanta with Delta a while back.
Thanks
1. Do you need to be in the left seat to be an instructor or could I do that as a first officer?
2. I've heard the Delta simulator trainers run 24/7. If I instructed is it like midnight shifts or anything like that? I could be wrong on that one since that is something I heard in passing when I did my ATP CTP course in Atlanta with Delta a while back.
Thanks
2. Simulators do basically run 24/7. With that said that is not where the bulk of the sim periods fall into. You would get a mix of events throughout the month. There are 4 sim periods that are between the hours of 0500 and 2300. The late night events are usually equally distributed since they are usually last on the want list and as of right now are the exception. I would be prepared though to do your fair share of late night sims when the training pipeline gets packed full.
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