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Old 02-06-2019 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by StartngOvr
I think it sucks, as someone else will probably get a short call RAP they don’t want and I’ve got a trip I don’t want.
If you're the least senior person eligible, and you got the thing you want least, it seems the system is working, no? I would almost always prefer a short call over a 2-day myself. If I were this next guy on the list who had to eat the trip because you YS a SC, I'd in fact be upset like you are now.

Those who prefer a trip over a short call can YS the trip. Had the next (more senior) guy wanted the 2-day trip you got tagged with, he would have YS it. In lieu of doing so, he's saying he'd rather take a SC.
Old 02-06-2019 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
If you're the least senior person eligible, and you got the thing you want least, it seems the system is working, no? I would almost always prefer a short call over a 2-day myself. If I were this next guy on the list who had to eat the trip because you YS a SC, I'd in fact be upset like you are now.

Those who prefer a trip over a short call can YS the trip. Had the next (more senior) guy wanted the 2-day trip you got tagged with, he would have YS it. In lieu of doing so, he's saying he'd rather take a SC.
Agreed. I'd always take a short call over a trip. System works the way it should.
Old 02-06-2019 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74
If you're the least senior person eligible, and you got the thing you want least, it seems the system is working, no? I would almost always prefer a short call over a 2-day myself. If I were this next guy on the list who had to eat the trip because you YS a SC, I'd in fact be upset like you are now.



Those who prefer a trip over a short call can YS the trip. Had the next (more senior) guy wanted the 2-day trip you got tagged with, he would have YS it. In lieu of doing so, he's saying he'd rather take a SC.


Given that it seems scheduling is running the show the way it was designed, then I’m really not upset. I just wasn’t sure that was the case. Certainly agree with you that someone could have YS if they wanted. Since we are fat in my category, I think most just gamble that they won’t get either a trip or short call.
I was really just thinking most would rather not deal with the short call. You, like me, don’t mind it. If someone lived in Dallas and had to commute to NYC and buy a hotel for the short call, he might feel differently about it. Part of my thinking is based on the discussions about the change to 9 hour short call a couple months back. Almost everyone on APC was venting about how exceedingly onerous (to them) it is to be on short call.
Old 02-06-2019 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by StartngOvr
Given that it seems scheduling is running the show the way it was designed, then I’m really not upset. I just wasn’t sure that was the case. Certainly agree with you that someone could have YS if they wanted. Since we are fat in my category, I think most just gamble that they won’t get either a trip or short call.
I was really just thinking most would rather not deal with the short call. You, like me, don’t mind it. If someone lived in Dallas and had to commute to NYC and buy a hotel for the short call, he might feel differently about it. Part of my thinking is based on the discussions about the change to 9 hour short call a couple months back. Almost everyone on APC was venting about how exceedingly onerous (to them) it is to be on short call.
I hear you. Personally, I've liked the change to 9 hour SC. I'm also an advocate of incentivizing pilots to bid for SC...one hour ABOVE the guarantee, whether used or unused. That rising tide would lift all boats: IMHO commuters would get fewer SC, line-holding would go more junior overall, the company might disperse SCs more cautiously, and we could see more green slips.
Old 02-06-2019 | 01:02 PM
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I saw a Maddog rotation with the scheduling comments “WILL NEED TO COVER...REF ATL XXXX/5 TO PREVENT EXTENSION AND POSSIBLE GDP IN EWR”

It appears that scheduling/tracking is working to no longer assume you will extend. If so it’s about time.
Old 02-06-2019 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
I saw a Maddog rotation with the scheduling comments “WILL NEED TO COVER...REF ATL XXXX/5 TO PREVENT EXTENSION AND POSSIBLE GDP IN EWR”

It appears that scheduling/tracking is working to no longer assume you will extend. If so it’s about time.
It might be because the crew is unable to extend (2nd extension without 30hrs rest.)
Old 02-06-2019 | 01:26 PM
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Maybe they were referring to extension into X days, rather than extension to the table B limits?


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Old 02-07-2019 | 11:05 AM
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Rerouted into my travel day for CQ. Anyone know if this affects my CQ in any way.

I’ll have a few hours to run home and grab some fresh clothes before heading to Atlanta.
Old 02-07-2019 | 11:57 AM
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I would call training and ask. You may be able to request the training be rescheduled. If it is rescheduled you get the greater of trips missed or 4 hours per day. Did you notify crew tracking of the training?
Old 02-07-2019 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I would call training and ask. You may be able to request the training be rescheduled. If it is rescheduled you get the greater of trips missed or 4 hours per day. Did you notify crew tracking of the training?
Training actually called me and it is being rescheduled. Didn’t even think about the pay implications.

It was due to rolling delays into MSP. Ran out of duty day.

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