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Old 04-22-2019 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Stryder
Yes. 75 is trigger and i am at 78. It should be 1030 pay and 1030 in the gs column. Just trying to figure out if it is shorting me somehow by having credit and half in the gs spot.

Edit. Called them up and they fixed it.
Who did you call, crew scheduling?
Old 04-22-2019 | 10:07 AM
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Who did you call, crew scheduling?
Yeah called crew scheduling. Some coding got messed up because of the flight delays that put one of the days as straight pay and credit. He went in and fixed it. All good now.
Old 04-22-2019 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Stryder
Yes. 75 is trigger and i am at 78. It should be 1030 pay and 1030 in the gs column. Just trying to figure out if it is shorting me somehow by having credit and half in the gs spot.

Edit. Called them up and they fixed it.
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Yeah called crew scheduling. Some coding got messed up because of the flight delays that put one of the days as straight pay and credit. He went in and fixed it. All good now.
Amazing how it is always an error in the company's favor. When called CS fixes the issues without an argument, but I wonder how many people don't check and get underpaid. I'm having an excellent month, I flew 2 GS and they only screwed up my pay on 1 of them .
Old 04-22-2019 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
Amazing how it is always an error in the company's favor. When called CS fixes the issues without an argument, but I wonder how many people don't check and get underpaid. I'm having an excellent month, I flew 2 GS and they only screwed up my pay on 1 of them .
To be fair, I imagine it's a lot easier to inadvertently cause something to be paid at whatever a standard amount is than to accidentally increase the amount of an overage.
Old 04-22-2019 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
Amazing how it is always an error in the company's favor. When called CS fixes the issues without an argument, but I wonder how many people don't check and get underpaid. I'm having an excellent month, I flew 2 GS and they only screwed up my pay on 1 of them .
I can assure you it’s not always in the companies favor. Most don’t post when they got a great deal in their favor or even talk about it. They scream however when it’s not in their favor.
Old 04-22-2019 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
Amazing how it is always an error in the company's favor. When called CS fixes the issues without an argument, but I wonder how many people don't check and get underpaid. I'm having an excellent month, I flew 2 GS and they only screwed up my pay on 1 of them .
It reminds me of the days of filing travel vouchers in the USAF. No kidding 80% of them were underpaid, sometimes significantly. And if you crossed the international dateline over and back, they’d have a meltdown.
Old 04-23-2019 | 04:47 AM
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They scream however when it’s not in their favor.
Because who doesn't like working for free?
Old 04-23-2019 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I can assure you it’s not always in the companies favor. Most don’t post when they got a great deal in their favor or even talk about it. They scream however when it’s not in their favor.
The only assurance I really want is that I'll be paid in accordance with the contract. It doesn't matter if it is intentional or by way of negligence; underpayment by any amount is theft of our rightful earnings. Of course people scream when a Fortune 500 company can't pay its employees properly - is that surprising? Shorting us multiple millions of dollars a year is disgusting. I'd love to see a punitive finding that would finally force the company to improve their processes and pay us correctly. It is maddening that a good portion of DALPA's resources must be squandered recovering underpayments.
Old 04-23-2019 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
The only assurance I really want is that I'll be paid in accordance with the contract. It doesn't matter if it is intentional or by way of negligence; underpayment by any amount is theft of our rightful earnings. Of course people scream when a Fortune 500 company can't pay its employees properly - is that surprising? Shorting us multiple millions of dollars a year is disgusting. I'd love to see a punitive finding that would finally force the company to improve their processes and pay us correctly. It is maddening that a good portion of DALPA's resources must be squandered recovering underpayments.
98% of the payments ALPA gets for pilots are not payroll errors. They are crew scheduling errors. Until you eliminate people in CS there will always be errors. Once white slips are automated I suspect there will be a large drop in issues. Reroute would be the only remaining problem and since some of reroute is subjective a contract rewrite is the best way to fix that.
Old 04-23-2019 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
98% of the payments ALPA gets for pilots are not payroll errors. They are crew scheduling errors. Until you eliminate people in CS there will always be errors. Once white slips are automated I suspect there will be a large drop in issues. Reroute would be the only remaining problem and since some of reroute is subjective a contract rewrite is the best way to fix that.
98% of 737 doors opening on takeoff are flight attendant errors, and yet captains were asked to brief it every leg. If there's a problem, you fix it. UNLESS not fixing the problem actually saves you money...as seems to be the case in most pay errors.

I'm happy to change the contract to anything that doesn't make me lose money for company errors. I just want them to pay me what they owe me - nothing more and nothing less. They should automate, hire or fire as needed to pay their (industry-leading) people.

How about every pay error not discovered and rectified by the company in 10 business days pays 200%, and any error not corrected in 30 calendar days pays 300%? Heck, they could even get special dispensation for an annual IT meltdown or two. I would love to see the company cost that change, as it should be ZERO... right? If they believe it would be expensive, why? Are they not staffed or equipped to remain in compliance with the PWA? How is being understaffed or underequipped to pay us per the contract - while making RECORD profits - acceptable behavior?
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