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BobZ 04-19-2019 10:51 AM

Thats part of deltas MWR program. :)

buckleyboy 04-19-2019 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2805453)
no base owns any flying, hope this helps.

If that is the case, why are only some bases of a fleet required to get visas for certain countries while other bases of the same fleet are not required to obtain certain visas?

DWC CAP10 USAF 04-19-2019 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2805453)
no base owns any flying, hope this helps.

Then why do we have base specific bid packages?

Why not just have one giant bid package for each airplane and let pilots from all the bases bid?

tunes 04-19-2019 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by buckleyboy (Post 2805477)
If that is the case, why are only some bases of a fleet required to get visas for certain countries while other bases of the same fleet are not required to obtain certain visas?

the base still doesn't own the flying. They could say next month all China flying out of Seattle goes to ATL and NYC ER crews so they now need chinese visas.


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2805478)
Then why do we have base specific bid packages?

Why not just have one giant bid package for each airplane and let pilots from all the bases bid?

flying shifts around there is nothing new. That doesn't change the fact that no base owns any flying.

4fans 04-19-2019 11:21 AM

I'm not an ER guy, but if I was, I think it would bother me that at my seniority I could hold international trips that start and end in Atlanta, but only if I was based in LAX. If I would in Atlanta I would only be able to hold domestic stuff.

When they blend the all-domestic narrow body categories between bases it is far less noticeable. The difference in QOL flying the European international flights makes it far more noticeable.

I just find it curious, not complaining as it doesn't effect me directly. I suspect this doesn't happen all of the time and is just there while they re-balance the categories to where the flying is. I couldn't imagine the company wanting to pay out that much credit when ATL already has local ER pilots to do the flying.

DWC CAP10 USAF 04-19-2019 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2805481)
the base still doesn't own the flying. They could say next month all China flying out of Seattle goes to ATL and NYC ER crews so they now need chinese visas.



flying shifts around there is nothing new. That doesn't change the fact that no base owns any flying.

I understand the company can move things around month to month...I'm more talking about how they assign rotation 6969 to the NYC (insert your new hire NB plane here)....they (CR) has mis-managed the capt/fo ratio so there is negative reserve coverage for months in a row....APD's don't even work it's so bad....FO's can't move their schedule around at all.....then just when you finally fall into the right spot where you are off work and a trip is in OT and you can almost taste the greeny....they pull a reserve guy from another base to cover the said rotation.

This results in the one base (NYC) guys getting bent over twice: once not being able to move days around because of the poor manning and then again when not even getting a chance to get the GS.

In this example, if the rotation gets assigned to base X in the monthly bid package then they should own it and I feel like the in base guys should have first dibs at the GS before they call in the OOB reserve guy.

I would like to see the assignment ladder modified slighly becuase of this.

And yes it was in my survey answers.

tunes 04-19-2019 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2805502)
I understand the company can move things around month to month...I'm more talking about how they assign rotation 6969 to the NYC (insert your new hire NB plane here)....they (CR) has mis-managed the capt/fo ratio so there is negative reserve coverage for months in a row....APD's don't even work it's so bad....FO's can't move their schedule around at all.....then just when you finally fall into the right spot where you are off work and a trip is in OT and you can almost taste the greeny....they pull a reserve guy from another base to cover the said rotation.

This results in the one base (NYC) guys getting bent over twice: once not being able to move days around because of the poor manning and then again when not even getting a chance to get the GS.

In this example, if the rotation gets assigned to base X in the monthly bid package then they should own it and I feel like the in base guys should have first dibs at the GS before they call in the OOB reserve guy.

I would like to see the assignment ladder modified slighly becuase of this.

And yes it was in my survey answers.

you are preaching to the choir and i'd bet 90% of the pilot group agrees with you here.

DWC CAP10 USAF 04-19-2019 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2805510)
you are preaching to the choir and i'd bet 90% of the pilot group agrees with you here.

Glad to know I'm not completey off the reservation.

Cheers!

ShyGuy 04-19-2019 03:02 PM

Sorry for this completely random question but does any NWA guy remember at the end of 2007, what terminal did NWA park at LAX? Like around Dec 2007.

And in Summer 2010, did Delta use Terminal 6 at LAX for domestic flights?

Scoop 04-20-2019 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2805502)
I understand the company can move things around month to month...I'm more talking about how they assign rotation 6969 to the NYC (insert your new hire NB plane here)....they (CR) has mis-managed the capt/fo ratio so there is negative reserve coverage for months in a row....APD's don't even work it's so bad....FO's can't move their schedule around at all.....then just when you finally fall into the right spot where you are off work and a trip is in OT and you can almost taste the greeny....they pull a reserve guy from another base to cover the said rotation.

This results in the one base (NYC) guys getting bent over twice: once not being able to move days around because of the poor manning and then again when not even getting a chance to get the GS.

In this example, if the rotation gets assigned to base X in the monthly bid package then they should own it and I feel like the in base guys should have first dibs at the GS before they call in the OOB reserve guy.

I would like to see the assignment ladder modified slighly becuase of this.

And yes it was in my survey answers.




I don't think its CR mismanaging as much as it is impossible to keep up with marketing. That and giving junior the FOs the ability to AE quicker (escape from NY) are contributing to these imbalances. 20 years ago we changed our schedule a few times a year and had Line of Time bidding. It was a much more static system.


Today it seems we change the schedule month to month. Things that were mostly manual are now mostly computerized. I also don't like it, but am willing to cut the company a little slack if they can consistently lead the industry and pull in 5B + profit a year.


As part of that I expect us (DAL Pilots) to benefit from an industry leading contract.



Scoop


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