How are you phone liable when you don't have to answer or even have it on?

Right. So with zero obligation of any kind whatsoever at midnight (and for at least 6 more hours to 6AM to get 30 total which is really the only point of this sub-thread) how is 00:00-06:00 considered an interruption of rest when you have no obligation whatsoever to do anything for the company whatsoever including be phone available or even be in the same state as your phone?

You have an obligation to respond if given an assignment. You have an obligation to the company, but not a responsibility for immediate contact. You are on duty.

I don’t think even long call is a interruption of rest. Kind of a joke. What I think is irrelevant however since the FAA says long call is not rest. That’s all that matters.

Long call pilots are never phone liable. You have no responsibility to acknowledge an assignment in any amount of time. You just have a responsibility to report to the airport within 12 hours of when they contact you.

And as sailing has said, long call is not rest.

If you have a single X day and are given an assignment the next day at 1000, iCrew will show rest from 2200-1000. The problem is that rest was assigned in the middle of your X day, so even though the total is 34 hours, you only had 24 hours prospectively identified when you went into your X day. So it doesn’t count as a 30 hour break. That’s why scheduling assigns the last 6 hours of your previous on call day as rest.

But how is it not prospective when you know going into that single X day you can't possibly be given anything whatsoever, and you have zero obligation to the company to "schedule check" and no phone availability obligation, for at least 34 hours?

You can be given an assignment on an X day.

Because you don’t know that. If they don’t have an assignment for you, then you go on call at midnight. And long call is not rest.

Mostly this^^^^^^^^. I believe technically you are not on duty but the key here is you are NOT on rest.

Gloopy,

You are correct in that you don't have to answer your phone right away but.....you still start your reserve long call obligation at 0001 and hence are not on rest.

Denny