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Han Solo 06-13-2018 05:30 AM

I just don’t see why our flagship base can’t hook up the effing power and air. I go to a po-dunk out station or a turd of a place like EWR and I’ve got both in under 10 minutes. I go to ATL and I have to run the APU nonsrop to keep the cabin cool. I touch ATL 1-2 times/day and they will usually get around to power (significantly slower than many out stations) but air almost never happens. All this nickel and diming I’m reading about and meanwhile I’m dumping cash out the back end to run the AC.

80ktsClamp 06-13-2018 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2613500)
I just don’t see why our flagship base can’t hook up the effing power and air. I go to a po-dunk out station or a turd of a place like EWR and I’ve got both in under 10 minutes. I go to ATL and I have to run the APU nonsrop to keep the cabin cool. I touch ATL 1-2 times/day and they will usually get around to power (significantly slower than many out stations) but air almost never happens. All this nickel and diming I’m reading about and meanwhile I’m dumping cash out the back end to run the AC.

The air even when hooked up can’t keep up on 80+ days with people on board... with an A321, I usually just turn it off when we start boarding anyways. Better ACs would pay off in spades...

trustbutverify 06-13-2018 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2613498)
Sure, sure... keep doubling down. What would be acceptable in your book so we can post it on Deltanet? Maybe if Kessler hadn’t have been canned it would be better?

I don't know anything about the Kessler situation (other than a change needed to happen in that committee). As far as the on-time thing goes, I think BB is right based on a couple of things - my personal experience and the on-time percentage tracker that is shown on Deltanet. I've had a lot of flights lately that pushed on time and ended up late for enroute weather deviations. Since weather deviations have always been there, the only variable that could be causing this is the lack of credit time buffers.

The Deltanet daily on-time tracker has been showing less than the goal more than 50% of the times I checked. The goal is always low 80's and hasn't been an issue until recently.

It's not a good trend. And from what I can see, it's brought about by penny pinching the credit time from trip construction.

sailingfun 06-13-2018 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by trustbutverify (Post 2613562)
I don't know anything about the Kessler situation (other than a change needed to happen in that committee). As far as the on-time thing goes, I think BB is right based on a couple of things - my personal experience and the on-time percentage tracker that is shown on Deltanet. I've had a lot of flights lately that pushed on time and ended up late for enroute weather deviations. Since weather deviations have always been there, the only variable that could be causing this is the lack of credit time buffers.

The Deltanet daily on-time tracker has been showing less than the goal more than 50% of the times I checked. The goal is always low 80's and hasn't been an issue until recently.

It's not a good trend. And from what I can see, it's brought about by penny pinching the credit time from trip construction.

Crew resources has nothing to do with block times for flights. The block times are set in other divisions. They just schedule to what marketing gives them. They can make a input but flight scheduling is above their pay grade.

LeineLodge 06-13-2018 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2613498)
Sure, sure... keep doubling down. What would be acceptable in your book so we can post it on Deltanet? Maybe if Kessler hadn’t have been canned it would be better?


Originally Posted by trustbutverify (Post 2613562)
I don't know anything about the Kessler situation (other than a change needed to happen in that committee). As far as the on-time thing goes, I think BB is right based on a couple of things - my personal experience and the on-time percentage tracker that is shown on Deltanet. I've had a lot of flights lately that pushed on time and ended up late for enroute weather deviations. Since weather deviations have always been there, the only variable that could be causing this is the lack of credit time buffers.

The Deltanet daily on-time tracker has been showing less than the goal more than 50% of the times I checked. The goal is always low 80's and hasn't been an issue until recently.

It's not a good trend. And from what I can see, it's brought about by penny pinching the credit time from trip construction.

I've been blissfully out of the ALPA bickering/BS loop for a long while now.

Can anyone fill me in on why Kessler was "fired"? Was it job performance*, or is this just more purging for purging's sake?

Why was a change needed on the committee? It sounds like the rest of the committee walked at the same time - which indicates to me that they disagreed with the "firing".

Miskell, for one, has been doing great work on the FB pages answering scheduling questions, and in the office. Was he part of the problem too? Or just disgusted with the petty union BS? :confused:

If there was a good reason, then cool, and let's hear it (preferably from our silent MEC admin - paging Bartells & Schnitzler). If not, we all just lost a lot via this committee-wide brain drain.

Keep our new "relationship" with the company in mind when your next scheduling issue spends a year waiting for a grievance hearing, instead of getting made right*

I really don't give a $hit who sits on what committee, but I do expect there to be some adult, rational reasons for why these decisions are being made. Militant reps, playing vindictive games, are not putting more money in our pockets.



*The scheduling committee has recovered ~$6M for the Delta pilots in the past year

Dirtdiver 06-13-2018 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 2613696)
I've been blissfully out of the ALPA bickering/BS loop for a long while now.

Can anyone fill me in on why Kessler was "fired"? Was it job performance*, or is this just more purging for purging's sake?

Why was a change needed on the committee? It sounds like the rest of the committee walked at the same time - which indicates to me that they disagreed with the "firing".

Miskell, for one, has been doing great work on the FB pages answering scheduling questions, and in the office. Was he part of the problem too? Or just disgusted with the petty union BS? :confused:

If there was a good reason, then cool, and let's hear it (preferably from our silent MEC admin - paging Bartells & Schnitzler). If not, we all just lost a lot via this committee-wide brain drain.

Keep our new "relationship" with the company in mind when your next scheduling issue spends a year waiting for a grievance hearing, instead of getting made right*

I really don't give a $hit who sits on what committee, but I do expect there to be some adult, rational reasons for why these decisions are being made. Militant reps, playing vindictive games, are not putting more money in our pockets.



*The scheduling committee has recovered ~$6M for the Delta pilots in the past year

Hypnotoad has a good letter over on CC, and I think someone was going to copy it to FB.

Theory is, had a lot to do with the 8 hours behind the door letter, not ready for prime time ARCOS, and unilaterally agreeing to SILs at 25 hours.

ERflyer 06-13-2018 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2613485)
The test service that took 4 hours on a PDX flight was a new business service. Had nothing to do with coach. It was also a test to see how it worked. They are changing it.

The service was/is in coach. Hence the controversy. It’s called “Bold Hospitality” where each course is served individually and picked up individually each one step at a time. In coach. Takes 4 hours minimum.

It might be a “test” but they are pushing it to save money on trays. The VP of Inflight is going out to PDX this week to push it. It is going to be retested in ATL in July by a handpicked group of flight attendants. (“Flight attendants who meet the criteria.”) They want to save money on trays so not sure what a retest will determine.

They will get whatever feedback they want and then continue to push it.

GogglesPisano 06-13-2018 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 2613703)
The service was/is in coach. Hence the controversy. It’s called “Bold Hospitality” where each course is served individually and picked up individually each one step at a time. In coach. Takes 4 hours minimum.

It might be a “test” but they are pushing it to save money on trays. The VP of Inflight is going out to PDX this week to push it. It is going to be retested in ATL in July by a handpicked group of flight attendants. (“Flight attendants who meet the criteria.”) They want to save money on trays so not sure what a retest will determine.

They will get whatever feedback they want and then continue to push it.

The senior mamas must love delaying their bunk time by an extra 3 hours.

GogglesPisano 06-13-2018 09:46 AM

C66 put out a comm. It mentioned communications put out by the Scheduling Committee regarding FAR 117, rest requirements, authorizing SIL's, ARCOS ...

JamesBond 06-13-2018 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2613500)
I just don’t see why our flagship base can’t hook up the effing power and air. I go to a po-dunk out station or a turd of a place like EWR and I’ve got both in under 10 minutes. I go to ATL and I have to run the APU nonsrop to keep the cabin cool. I touch ATL 1-2 times/day and they will usually get around to power (significantly slower than many out stations) but air almost never happens. All this nickel and diming I’m reading about and meanwhile I’m dumping cash out the back end to run the AC.

I know you don't want to hear/do this, but fill out an FCR. If we aren't willing to flood them with paperwork about this, it will never change.

Ball's in your court.


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