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Han Solo 06-15-2018 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2614889)
1) No seat lock/category freeze for an MD.

2) Yup...22.F.12 says you can be reinstated without regard to standing bids of senior pilots if the company subsequently posts a vacancy with an earliest conversion within 6 bid periods of your MD conversion.

ty sir............

Mesabah 06-15-2018 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2614813)
What reg/FOM chapter and verse (at the time) was violated?

It sounds like a poor interpretation of 121.683.

GogglesPisano 06-15-2018 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2615090)
It sounds like a poor interpretation of 121.683.

I'll say. No mention of "the PIC shall ..." in that one.

Rooster435 06-15-2018 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2614889)
1) No seat lock/category freeze for an MD.

2) Yup...22.F.12 says you can be reinstated without regard to standing bids of senior pilots if the company subsequently posts a vacancy with an earliest conversion within 6 bid periods of your MD conversion.

That’s why the 350 FO displacements on the last bid made no sense to me. I’m assuming there will be more vacancies on this next AE and they can all just bid right back. Seems to me that it would make more sense to just carry the surplus for a while. But I’m just a line swine so who knows.

DELTAFO 06-15-2018 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2614813)
What reg/FOM chapter and verse (at the time) was violated?

FOM 5.1.2

10 characters

GogglesPisano 06-16-2018 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 2615319)
FOM 5.1.2

10 characters

Without getting into too much detail, that is a recent revision (hence the change bars.) That's why I included at the time in my post.

If they were violated after that revision, ok. But if they're violating guys for ignoring every minutia in the FOM, we're going to have a lot of pilots taking government-mandated vacations.

Is your FO wearing a regulation belt?

hockeypilot44 06-16-2018 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2614808)
Not just them... some were resistant to it. I've always handed them the briefing guide with the name I prefer to go by as well as the FO and circle the flight time. (not Captain Hollywood level, but hey).

It's not that hard to give us their names and the code... plus it's codified in their book (and now ours) for them to give us that and their jumpseat positions. A crew got violated not long ago for not knowing where each of the stews were.

The crew today gave a little pushback on it but, hey... what's done right is what is done right.

The crew was violated because the stews didn’t sit where they were supposed to. No one sat next to one of the exits because he/she didn’t want to sit facing passengers. This happened on a flight with an FAA person in the back who witnessed it. I’m sure the pilots had no idea this was happening. The solution is for the flight attendants to now tell us where they will be located.

GogglesPisano 06-16-2018 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 2615433)
The crew was violated because the stews didn’t sit where they were supposed to. No one sat next to one of the exits because he/she didn’t want to sit facing passengers. This happened on a flight with an FAA person in the back who witnessed it. I’m sure the pilots had no idea this was happening. The solution is for the flight attendants to now tell us where they will be located.

I have a hard time believing the pilots were violated. Violations are becoming increasingly rare these days.

Falcon20 06-16-2018 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2615514)
I have a hard time believing the pilots were violated. Violations are becoming increasingly rare these days.

Have you seen the bid packages? I feel more violated each month!:)

DALMD88FO 06-16-2018 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Falcon20 (Post 2615588)
Have you seen the bid packages? I feel more violated each month!:)

Now that my friend is funny and true.


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