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Hank Kingsley 06-13-2018 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2613740)
I know you don't want to hear/do this, but fill out an FCR. If we aren't willing to flood them with paperwork about this, it will never change.

Ball's in your court.

IDK, they aka fltops has been writing this stuff for years. All they need to do is look out the window across the runway and see what's going on in Mecca. Should bring the Narita ground crews to Atlanta for a demo on how handle planes.

gloopy 06-13-2018 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2613500)
I just don’t see why our flagship base can’t hook up the effing power and air. I go to a po-dunk out station or a turd of a place like EWR and I’ve got both in under 10 minutes. I go to ATL and I have to run the APU nonsrop to keep the cabin cool. I touch ATL 1-2 times/day and they will usually get around to power (significantly slower than many out stations) but air almost never happens. All this nickel and diming I’m reading about and meanwhile I’m dumping cash out the back end to run the AC.

Not to mention in the AM how often do we start APU's to run 300-500 dollar an hour coffee makers 45 minutes before push? That's some insanely expensive java. While I clearly understand that a few of the power players want their cup right away, it seems like we could figure out other ways, especially while trying to be all "green" or whatever lol.

tomgoodman 06-13-2018 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 2613703)
It is going to be retested in ATL in July by a handpicked group of flight attendants. (“Flight attendants who meet the criteria.”) They want to save money on trays so not sure what a retest will determine.

It will determine how well they can handpick flight attendants. :p

ERflyer 06-13-2018 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2613804)
It will determine how well they can handpick flight attendants. :p

Haha. So true. And that way they can always get the results they want. Not the results that accurately reflect what customers will receive on a typical flight.

snowdawg 06-13-2018 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 2613744)
IDK, they aka fltops has been writing this stuff for years. All they need to do is look out the window across the runway and see what's going on in Mecca. Should bring the Narita ground crews to Atlanta for a demo on how handle planes.

They're to busy counting their bonuses.

Galaxydriver 06-13-2018 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 2613696)
I've been blissfully out of the ALPA bickering/BS loop for a long while now.



Can anyone fill me in on why Kessler was "fired"? Was it job performance*, or is this just more purging for purging's sake?



Why was a change needed on the committee? It sounds like the rest of the committee walked at the same time - which indicates to me that they disagreed with the "firing".



Miskell, for one, has been doing great work on the FB pages answering scheduling questions, and in the office. Was he part of the problem too? Or just disgusted with the petty union BS? :confused:



If there was a good reason, then cool, and let's hear it (preferably from our silent MEC admin - paging Bartells & Schnitzler). If not, we all just lost a lot via this committee-wide brain drain.



Keep our new "relationship" with the company in mind when your next scheduling issue spends a year waiting for a grievance hearing, instead of getting made right*



I really don't give a $hit who sits on what committee, but I do expect there to be some adult, rational reasons for why these decisions are being made. Militant reps, playing vindictive games, are not putting more money in our pockets.







*The scheduling committee has recovered ~$6M for the Delta pilots in the past year



So how much did we spend to recover that ~$6m? Seems like they are systematically shorting us and only pay up when caught and called on it. How about a grievance on pay to make them “fix” the system.


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forgot to bid 06-13-2018 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2613500)
I just don’t see why our flagship base can’t hook up the effing power and air. I go to a po-dunk out station or a turd of a place like EWR and I’ve got both in under 10 minutes. I go to ATL and I have to run the APU nonsrop to keep the cabin cool. I touch ATL 1-2 times/day and they will usually get around to power (significantly slower than many out stations) but air almost never happens. All this nickel and diming I’m reading about and meanwhile I’m dumping cash out the back end to run the AC.

I usually turn off ground air about 30 min before departure on an A321 then I promptly freeze everyone out. But ground air runs temps in the cabin to above 80-85F in a heartbeat, APU keeps it at around 70F. So once it hits 76F, boom, it’s off. The A319/320 are a different story, they like the ground air. Ymmv is what I’m getting at.

That said, talk to the ALA and they may have a reason. I believe the city runs the jetway air system so sometimes they don’t have it set right and it runs hot on a hot day or cold on a cold day so the ramp crews don’t even hook it up. Or that used to be the case.

If it rains those hoses are very heavy and may not even be worth pulling out if the crew isn’t using it.

Baradium 06-13-2018 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 2614003)
I usually turn off ground air about 30 min before departure on an A321 then I promptly freeze everyone out. But ground air runs temps in the cabin to above 80-85F in a heartbeat, APU keeps it at around 70F. So once it hits 76F, boom, it’s off. The A319/320 are a different story, they like the ground air. Ymmv is what I’m getting at.

That said, talk to the ALA and they may have a reason. I believe the city runs the jetway air system so sometimes they don’t have it set right and it runs hot on a hot day or cold on a cold day so the ramp crews don’t even hook it up. Or that used to be the case.

If it rains those hoses are very heavy and may not even be worth pulling out if the crew isn’t using it.

Sometimes it's because the probe on the jetbridge isn't put through the door. If it's in the 60s outside the probe will call for heat and then the plane gets hot. Not all the bridges use the probe or even have one, but it'll cause weird temperature outputs.

80ktsClamp 06-14-2018 01:16 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 2614003)
I usually turn off ground air about 30 min before departure on an A321 then I promptly freeze everyone out. But ground air runs temps in the cabin to above 80-85F in a heartbeat, APU keeps it at around 70F. So once it hits 76F, boom, it’s off. The A319/320 are a different story, they like the ground air. Ymmv is what I’m getting at.

That said, talk to the ALA and they may have a reason. I believe the city runs the jetway air system so sometimes they don’t have it set right and it runs hot on a hot day or cold on a cold day so the ramp crews don’t even hook it up. Or that used to be the case.

If it rains those hoses are very heavy and may not even be worth pulling out if the crew isn’t using it.

The guy that was the big deal for the jetway air in ATL is Piro. That’s his thing.... hit him hard! Agreed on the planes it works on... it just can’t keep up when a 321 starts loading on an 80ish day.

3 green 06-14-2018 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 2613744)
IDK, they aka fltops has been writing this stuff for years. All they need to do is look out the window across the runway and see what's going on in Mecca. Should bring the Narita ground crews to Atlanta for a demo on how handle planes.

Not hooking the air and power up in a timely manner, or at all, started about the time Ed took over. It is obviously not a priority to him.


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