They're good shirts. They do tend to fray around the collar and shoulders area, but that can be mitigated by shaving the piling off with an old razor. Very comfortable and one of the better true "no iron" shirts out there.

I can hear it now: "You goin' downstairs for a drink?".... "Nah. I gotta shave my shirt."

Wow, just wow...:rolleyes:

It’s taken me awhile but I’ve finally figured out you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

I apologize to the rest of you out there for debating with someone who’s obviously a genius in his own mind but who doesn’t know **** from shineola.

Denny

For the third time, I never said I was in a poor position. I have actually said quite the opposite. If you refuse to pay attention to what I say, then what's your motive in asking me for a response? Because you seem to have your mind already made up.

My goal? Discussing history is how we learn from it. There's nothing wrong with setting the record straight. Also, the issue was relevant at the time. The discussion has dragged on though, so I will probably end my participation for consideration's sake. If discussing the truth of our industry's history is too much for you, perhaps next time you shouldn't participate at all. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to flying ERJs for endeavor...........:rolleyes:

Hah! I'll bet your time is up at the day room computer.

I don't think anyone is going to change your mind that mainline Pilots sold Scope but maybe your intransigence will help us educate other Pilots. I along with 1300 buddies, were furloughed while DCI was hiring hundreds of Pilots. We were there and lived through it probably experiencing the harshest fallout of the whole RJ debacle.

What I find amusing is that those of us who lived through this issue are now told by someone that we "Sold Scope" for pay increases. Who exactly sold Scope? The 1300 furloughee's? You know that we are all "evil mainline Pilots now. The guys who took a 42% pay cuts?

You don't have to live through something to be knowledgeable about it and I am sure many of your contemporaries have a good basic knowledge about how it went down and yet you seem to cling to the bumper sticker saying of "Mainline Pilots sold Scope." As I have said repeatedly - mistakes were made and it would be great if we today's knowledge back in the 1990s.

The issue is far more complicated and nuanced then the bumper sticker mentality that you keep repeating. The fact that you keep repeating this makes me believe you are only parroting what you have heard and have not really done much serious research into the issue. Fact is DAL had minimal restrictions on Scope prior to 1996. Scope got out of control in the 2000s and we have been slowly correcting ever since. Please do some of your own research and come back and educate us - you know the guys who were furloughed due to Scope mistakes and fill us in on how we "Sold Scope."

Scoop

Well said Scoop, these are very complicated issues that deserve a lot more details than most of us can even remember without looking it up. Someone write a book!

Try explaining to him about the BAE146’s and Delta’s threat to transfer everything smaller than a 757 to the regionals and poopaloops head might explode!

Poopplop will always vote NO. He will never have to take responsibility, and can maintain his perfectly clean record of never making mistakes. It will always be the “other” guys who did all of this to him and the industry.

You obviously misunderstood what I posted.

Troll level: novice

C’mon, you can do better.