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forgot to bid 08-19-2015 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1951633)
So the Auburn sorority girls are on top of the Bama sorority girls? Giggity.

I can live with this.


The other thing about that video, and it matters not what school, but just as orthopedic surgeons may be rubbing their hands together in glee watching all the skateboard tricksters on youtube; there is probably a divorce lawyer in Hoover rubbing his hands together in glee of all his future high maintenance clients. :D

Xray678 08-19-2015 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1951873)
It drives me bat $hit when a guy in my category yellow slips... That's someone's greenie. Who yellow slips when they're short.

I know it's legal.

I yellow slipped on my x days earlier this summer. Normally assigned reserve trips early in the month gave me a lot of hours, so I yellow slipped trying to fill up. Got some pretty good trips too. By the 22cd of the month I was full and the wife and I went to the beach.

Did I prevent someone from getting a greenslip? Maybe. Do I care? No. As you said, it's legal and I will take advantage of the contract to improve not just my pay check but also my quality of life.

scambo1 08-19-2015 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1952115)
I can live with this.


The other thing about that video, and it matters not what school, but just as orthopedic surgeons may be rubbing their hands together in glee watching all the skateboard tricksters on youtube; there is probably a divorce lawyer in Hoover rubbing his hands together in glee of all his future high maintenance clients. :D

The subliminal daddy anger stuff was what I noticed in that video.

Imapilot2 08-19-2015 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 1951806)
I keep waiting for the company to close this loophole or have a min month requirement for benefits, insurance, etc.

I guess we don't have enough 62-64 year old guys that are dropping a couple trips a month to enjoy a partial retirement while keeping their benefits. If I was 60/when I'm 60, if I'm not retired yet, I plan on doing exactly that and keeping my insurance while taking it easy for the rest of my career while my 401K grows a few more %.

Hopefully our staffing will be adequate by then to be able to drop a trip or two.

Agree 100%

Timbo 08-19-2015 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 1951806)
I keep waiting for the company to close this loophole or have a min month requirement for benefits, insurance, etc.

I guess we don't have enough 62-64 year old guys that are dropping a couple trips a month to enjoy a partial retirement while keeping their benefits. If I was 60/when I'm 60, if I'm not retired yet, I plan on doing exactly that and keeping my insurance while taking it easy for the rest of my career while my 401K grows a few more %.

Hopefully our staffing will be adequate by then to be able to drop a trip or two.

The guys who are 62-64 today lost millions in their DB plans, with little time to recoup it. They are flying their butts off trying to put enough in the bank to retire and not have to be a greeter at Wal Mart.

It's easy to say you'll go low and relax at 62....when you are 40 or 50. When you are 62 with no DB plan and little in the bank, no so much. The 'smart play' I see is to bid international F/O and buddy bid with LCA's drop trips and only fly greenslips. That's why we have a lot of 25+ year F/O's on the 777 and other international wide bodies.

They make more than narrow body domestic Captain and work far less days, and when they do work, it's one leg to a 24+ hour layover in a nice hotel, not 9 hours at the airport Holiday Inn.

GogglesPisano 08-19-2015 05:50 AM

Once a pilot gets close to his guarantee, he can use a YS to fly to the ALV + 15. That's the only reason I would do it. It's like a WS for a reserve.

Of course, that's if he has the temerity to take a potential GS that a senior pilot is obviously entitled to. :D

forgot to bid 08-19-2015 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1952184)
The guys who are 62-64 today lost millions in their DB plans, with little time to recoup it. They are flying their butts off trying to put enough in the bank to retire and not have to be a greeter at Wal Mart.

It's easy to say you'll go low and relax at 62....when you are 40 or 50. When you are 62 with no DB plan and little in the bank, no so much. The 'smart play' I see is to bid international F/O and buddy bid with LCA's drop trips and only fly greenslips. That's why we have a lot of 25+ year F/O's on the 777 and other international wide bodies.

They make more than narrow body domestic Captain and work far less days, and when they do work, it's one leg to a 24+ hour layover in a nice hotel, not 9 hours at the airport Holiday Inn.

B.S...... it's not the airport holiday inn, it's the crowne plaza or marriot, 30 min away but in a downtown. A dead downtown. Next to nothing. Where people fear going. Cops don't go. And there is no food. But there is a train track. Oh yeah, van driver ain't there, should be there any second, he just left... the airport.

And that's considered the short hotel. Because dammit, the FAA might require 10 hours but we will make sure it's only 9... but more than 8 so you can't call.

:D :(

Big E 757 08-19-2015 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1952184)
The guys who are 62-64 today lost millions in their DB plans, with little time to recoup it. They are flying their butts off trying to put enough in the bank to retire and not have to be a greeter at Wal Mart.

It's easy to say you'll go low and relax at 62....when you are 40 or 50. When you are 62 with no DB plan and little in the bank, no so much. The 'smart play' I see is to bid international F/O and buddy bid with LCA's drop trips and only fly greenslips. That's why we have a lot of 25+ year F/O's on the 777 and other international wide bodies.

They make more than narrow body domestic Captain and work far less days, and when they do work, it's one leg to a 24+ hour layover in a nice hotel, not 9 hours at the airport Holiday Inn.


I hope my post didn't sound too insensitive, I know a lot of our guys are still recovering from the losses.

As far as the LCA thing, I don't know about the other intl categories, but on the 7ER in ATL, that seems like more of a seasonal strategy. I think NYC and DTW are still short in September but ATL has almost 100 guys on reserve in SEP. The seasonal nature of the International flying makes it hard to pick up greenslips during the off season unless you live in base and are willing to do 1 day GS.

It's still a much higher paying strategy than dropping two trips a month, and I'm sure the 777 and A330 which have longer trips probably allows for more GS during the whole year.

Ferd149 08-19-2015 08:15 AM

AE is out...........

scambo1 08-19-2015 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1952192)
Once a pilot gets close to his guarantee, he can use a YS to fly to the ALV + 15. That's the only reason I would do it. It's like a WS for a reserve.

Of course, that's if he has the temerity to take a potential GS that a senior pilot is obviously entitled to. :D

Hey, I'm an *********. What do you want me to say.:D


Now, there have been 2 excellent words of the day the last 2 days...

1. Temerity...def. when some dumb junior FO steals a senior FOs greenslip.:D

2. Pusillanimous...def. the bargaining stance of DALPA.


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