Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 2170917)

Or, he could be a new hire on his first leg after OE. Good luck with any help on that expressway visual at night. Or anything. Given Delta's "outstanding" training program, even the sharpest guy needs seasoning on the line, to put it tactfully.

E175 Captain, with only FADEC/glass time...1 year on the 88...to 88 captain.. Yeah. That's safe.

Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2171055)

Speaking as a guy who came from the military flying a heavy with automation very similar to the 88...........you are full of crap.

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Originally Posted by HTBH (Post 2170343)

Anybody know how many of the AE positions are still vacant and to be filled?

And, I've got to ask the question: why are they still awarding 747 F/O positions? Look at the August reserve list on that thing compared to any narrowbody aircraft in NYC. Can we borrow some of these guys??? And that isn't a jab at 747 guys. If I could hold it, I would and gladly commute to reserve. But I don't understand the logic behind awarding that to people when they appear to have more reserves than they know what to do with, the summer months are over and the fleet is shrinking. Meanwhile...in narrowbody NYC land there isn't a single day of positive reserve coverage on the 717, M88, A320, or 757 (and just a handful on the 737 right at the minimum level). Again....not an attack on the widebody guys. I hope to be one of you someday. It just makes no sense to me why they underman NYC so much and keep adding bodies to fleets that seem to have plenty of bodies already. I'm hoping the 500 new hires coming July through October will help things out with some schedule flexibility and coverage.

Originally Posted by nohat (Post 2171119)

All this talk about quick upgrades and safety is BS. The quick upgrade is the only benefit of getting hired now at Delta.

Delta has the least amount of wide bodies, low pay, uses far117 as its contract, almost 2 vacation days to one work day, work more or the same as a regional, 10 hour overnights, sick leave witch hunts, extension and fatigue pay issues, you have to pay for your training hotel, Training is almost all self study these days, open contract with potential for more concessions to work rules and future growth.

Delta is lucky to get the pilots they are getting looking at the pay rates and work rules of other carriers both passenger and boxes.